summer cycle

[makaveli25]

Ive been off aas for the last 6 months im holding the same weight just a little more fat.. Im planning my summer cycle. i was talking about buying up a bunch of primo but its not cost effective and it will probllalby end up being test anyway.. Im gonna try to keep it rather simple

Im 6'0 210.. Been cycling on and off the last 4 years im currently 25 years old.. Have never run tren but Im gonna give it a shot at a low dose if the sides are minimal im going to kick it up a little.. I also want to incorporate an oral in there.. I have a ton of those 50mg bd dbol laying around.. I dont want to bloat up to bad this cycle though was think of getting some winny.. heres a rough draft of my cycle. also i will need some gyno protection my nips get puffy last cycle they got puffy they go down but not all the way..

1-14 400-600 mg test cyp
1-8 50-100mg eod tren A

1-4 dbol 50mg ed
or
1-6 winny 50mg inj.

I know i need something to combat prog. sides if i get them is there and ai i can use thats not to harsh that will help with prog and estro sides.. Thank you im hoping this first run with tren will work out

[Thate]

Combat tren sides with bromocriptine.

If you decide to run tren I wouldn't add an oral.

Good luck!

[Dawgpound_Hank]

This is just my take - I would diss the dbol. It appears you wanna harden up, and tren & test is killa to do just that...assuming your diet is sound too. 50mg dbol 4 weeks can very well add ALOT of bloat...not what your looking for. Also, when you stop the dbol, your gonna more than likely see the scale drop due to losing all that water...a useless mind fuck per se. Keep in mind that tren-a kicks in pretty fast too...so you can think of that as your "kick start".

[makaveli25]

Combat tren sides with bromocriptine.

If you decide to run tren I wouldn't add an oral.

Good luck!

I heard winny can actually help with some of the sides from tren but i dont have any real experence with that what do you think thate

[makaveli25]

This is just my take - I would diss the dbol. It appears you wanna harden up, and tren & test is killa to do just that...assuming your diet is sound too. 50mg dbol 4 weeks can very well add ALOT of bloat...not what your looking for. Also, when you stop the dbol, your gonna more than likely see the scale drop due to losing all that water...a useless mind fuck per se. Keep in mind that tren-a kicks in pretty fast too...so you can think of that as your "kick start".

im sick of dbol im thinking of just getting rid of most of it to a buddy im sick of just getting bloated

[liftsiron]

Combat tren sides with bromocriptine.

If you decide to run tren I wouldn't add an oral.

Good luck!

I agree save the d-bol, when running tren I take 200mgs B-6 twice a day and it nullifies any negative tren sides for me. B-6 often overlooked is very effective against progesterone sides effects.

[Forkboy]

mr jucifier

[Persian]

im on tren now ..i dont feel much sides though ..
but its like my 4th shot only
im on Prop Tren Tura ..

[makaveli25]

persian how are you doing ? why dont you come around more

[makaveli25]

This is just my take - I would diss the dbol. It appears you wanna harden up, and tren & test is killa to do just that...assuming your diet is sound too. 50mg dbol 4 weeks can very well add ALOT of bloat...not what your looking for. Also, when you stop the dbol, your gonna more than likely see the scale drop due to losing all that water...a useless mind fuck per se. Keep in mind that tren-a kicks in pretty fast too...so you can think of that as your "kick start".

nice post

[makaveli25]

I agree save the d-bol, when running tren I take 200mgs B-6 twice a day and it nullifies any negative tren sides for me. B-6 often overlooked is very effective against progesterone sides effects.

really b-6 I think i read that somewhere problably not as harsh either as taking another perscription drug.. Youve got lots of good information thank you

[John Benz]

I agree that a test/tren cycle is all you really need. Even the winnie is just overkill. The first time I added tren to the test, I wasn't ready for the increase in strength and agression and I overtrained and got physically ill with flu-like symptoms. Hasn't happened since, but I'm more careful now. On that first tren cycle, I was adding 10 lbs to the chain for parrellel bar dips on every gym visit. Finally had to just take a couple weeks off for system and joints to recover.

[John Benz]

BTW....if I was to add anything else to the test/tren for a cutting cycle it would be EQ. But I don't think the results would warrant the added cost.

[John Benz]

I agree save the d-bol, when running tren I take 200mgs B-6 twice a day and it nullifies any negative tren sides for me. B-6 often overlooked is very effective against progesterone sides effects.

Thanks for the input on B-6. I recently read somewhere that B-6 at this dose is nearly as effective as statin drugs at improving circulation and heading off PAD. But the same author warned that at injcreasingly higher doses B-6 and Niacin can be harmful to the liver.

[Thate]

I heard winny can actually help with some of the sides from tren but i dont have any real experence with that what do you think thate

I never noticed winny acting as an ai while on tren. The only time I ran them together I think it was overkill.