Mannys test to epitest ratio 10:1

[Deacon]

BRISTOL, Conn. (AP) — Manny Ramirez's positive urine test showed an elevated testosterone level, and a lab used a test to determine whether the hormone was naturally produced to build evidence against him, ESPN.com reported Monday.

Baseball asked the World Anti-Doping Agency lab in Montreal to perform a carbon isotope ratio test, which determines whether testosterone is natural or synthetic, the Web site reported. MLB then asked Ramirez to produce medical records, as required under the drug agreement.

Ramirez's test had a testosterone-epitestosterone ratio between 4:1 and 10:1, ESPN.com reported. Typically, a person naturally produces the hormones at a ratio of 1:1; tests of 4:1 or greater are flagged.

Ramirez's side was prepared to argue to an arbitrator that the synthetic testosterone was caused by the Los Angeles Dodgers outfielder taking the steroids precursor DHEA, ESPN.com and the Union-Tribune in San Diego reported Saturday. DHEA is not banned by MLB.

A possible appeal was dropped before a scheduled Wednesday meeting after the medical records turned over included a prescription for the fertility drug HCG, or human chorionic gonadotrophin, ESPN.com reported. Some athletes who have used steroids have taken HCG to help restart natural testosterone production. Because HCG is banned by baseball, the sport based Ramirez's suspension on the use of that drug.

Ramirez was banned for 50 games Thursday. Barring postponements, he's eligible to return July 3.

[Deacon]

I didnt even know HCG was detectable for very long - anyone know the timetable?

[DADAWG]

I didnt even know HCG was detectable for very long - anyone know the timetable?

i think his ratios being whack is what was detected . the hcg was in his records . the carbon isotope [ olympic test ] test is probablly big time different than a standard test

[Stackt]

Anyone thats great in any sport will get random testing . ^ on the hcg detection ....wonder if Tiger's next ?

[HugelyGifted]

i think everyone in MLB should tell the media and congress to FUCK OFF!! and quit playing untill they leave them alone to actually PLAY THE GAME!!

if an athlete wants to take performance enhancers, so be it. its their body and their personal choice. if some weaker, scared, smaller, slower, shittier player is jealous, too bad...he has the same chance to take the same things to improve his game. so shut up about it.

and all this self righteous bullshit about saving americas youth, and being a role model, etc. they have successfully made steroids a mainstream topic. before all this, probably 96% of kids would never guess a pro baseball player would take steroids. now they all know, and know ABOUT steroids. theyre more likely now than they were 10 years ago to WANT to take them. our government is full of IDIOTS. seriously, is there nothing better for them to be concerned with right now?? come on.

the entire situation is rediculous. and roger clemens is back under the heat again. let the man go already. hes cooperated completely with everything theyve asked him!! if i was him id would say fuck baseball, and fuck the U.S. id take my millions and move to mexico or europe and enjoy life with my family.

the U.S. govmnt has successfully destroyed baseball, and is working on pro sports in general...portraying steroids as nothing less than evil, satanic, monster creaters, the root of all things evil in the world.

maybe they should crack down on the people selling crystal meth to 6th graders...but nope...some idiot politician saw this as an easy way to publicity. an easy way to say "i made the world a better place"...all for personal gain. over something so idiotic.

i dunno...just my little rant...but if i was in MLB...id quit