Yates, Ray & Levrone talk gear

[Dawgpound_Hank]

Good read - new stuff.

http://www.musculardevelopment.com/articles/chemical-enhancement/14311-the-lowdown-on-drugs-part-1-kevin-levrone-shawn-ray-and-dorian-yates-speak-out.html#.VW3wO1VVikp

[DRveejay11]

Thanks Hank but sorry I call BS on their responses. Lol. You could tell they were still not willing to come fully clean about their use for whatever reasons. Some of those replies were flat out comical

[Dawgpound_Hank]

Hey opinions will vary indeed Doc haha! Keep in mind they were talking about their first show. Considering that & for that time period, I don't see it so hard to believe. Yates has mentioned his cycles during his O reign and they were MUCH higher, yet, not the 5+ g's per week everyone seems to think a pro must use. I guess being that I myself have always been pretty big even natty, I can fathom that an O-caliber-genetically-gifted guy can get enormous on much smaller amounts than most tend to believe. Call me naive perhaps.

[DRveejay11]

Yeah. All good points brother

Who knows I guess. I guess for me, who is the opposite (having the genetics of a worm) - I'm always looking to blame the gear for the gains. Haha

Guess in the end, I'm just jealous.

[Glycomann]

Looks like Yates was hardly off.. 3 4 week periods over the year.

4 off (after O)8 on.. 4 off.. 8 on.. 4 off.. 8 on.. 4 off.. on 12 (O prep).

Levrone took 6 months or more right off.

Ray.. who knows

[Glycomann]

I recently saw an interview with Mike Quinn who claims he used Yates chemist for the 94 Iron Man.. his best look. Said the guy had him on 23 different drugs including EPO.

[bufbiker]

I enjoyed the article. I look forward to seeing what their actual cycles looked like. I'm sure much less than what most people think. I'm one of those guys that can gain easily or lose with a bit more effort, but still fairly easy all through just diet and training. So I'm more easily persuaded that they may not have used tons of aas.
That said, what will be interesting is how honest they'll be about insulin and hgh. I know Dorian said he used slin in prep for one O but didn't use it after that due to bloating and ab distention.

[b52]

I think the cycle depends on the person. Lee Priest is open about his use, and he doesn't use massive amounts. Also like DVJ said, I think some of these articles aren't the actual words of them. Only because I saw a recent interview with Kevin Levrone, and that dude wouldn't even talk about gear, so why would he for this? It's no secret they all use, but dosage is all particular to the individual. I have a buddy that grows off 250mg test/wk. I wish I had those genes.

[blm]

I recently saw an interview with Mike Quinn who claims he used Yates chemist for the 94 Iron Man.. his best look. Said the guy had him on 23 different drugs including EPO.

Do you have a link to that? I'd like to see that as well.

[Glycomann]

Do you have a link to that? I'd like to see that as well.

http://www.rxmuscle.com/video/heavy-muscle-tv/12303-heavy-muscle-tv-93-live-tonight-7-30pm-est.html

[blm]

Thanks brother

[Dawgpound_Hank]

Part 2...

http://musculardevelopment.com/articles/chemical-enhancement/14316-the-lowdown-on-drugs-part-2-kevin-levrone-shawn-ray-and-dorian-yates-speak-out.html#.VXECNFVVikp

Part 3 should be most interesting in which they will discuss the cycles & doses they used back when they competed, exact gear they used and side effects , and what they run now to maintain normal hormone levels.

[buffalohead]

I think the cycle depends on the person. Lee Priest is open about his use, and he doesn't use massive amounts. Also like DVJ said, I think some of these articles aren't the actual words of them. Only because I saw a recent interview with Kevin Levrone, and that dude wouldn't even talk about gear, so why would he for this? It's no secret they all use, but dosage is all particular to the individual. I have a buddy that grows off 250mg test/wk. I wish I had those genes.

Yeah, I don't know if I believe any written thing. Didn't Ronnie Coleman "write" some articles or q&a in Flex or something back in the day? If you've ever heard him talk, he can barely string together a coherent sentence much less write a professional sounding article.

[Dawgpound_Hank]

Yeah, I don't know if I believe any written thing. Didn't Ronnie Coleman "write" some articles or q&a in Flex or something back in the day? If you've ever heard him talk, he can barely string together a coherent sentence much less write a professional sounding article.

You mean "Yeeeaaahhh buddddddaaaaaayyyy" doesn't count? Obviously the columns by various bodybuilders in the mags are edited. However the above links I posted are interviews, so the words are verbatim, or at least should be.

Yates is quite more cerebral than Coleman that's for sure. IMO I believe Yates has nothing to hide - seems like a no-bs type of guy as he always has been. As for Shawn, I can see him talking shit in a minute. Have no idea about Kevin. Keep in mind these guys are talking 20+ years ago, so they don't have anything to lose IMO. We all know that the cycles guys run now days are much higher than what they ran back then. Just like most would agree that what they took in the 90's was a shitload more than what they took in the 70's. Hence, I think it makes them feel more at ease talking about what they took back then.

Part 3 will reveal alot regarding bs-talk or not. If we read that they claim to have been running something like only 500mg ew of injects and 20mg of dbol ed during their Olympia runs, then I would call bullshit haha. But I know Yates has already mentioned his cycles more than once, so he won't go there. Be interesting what Kevin & Shawn will "fess up" to.

Another guy I wish they would interview on the topic is Paul Dillet. He was insane and had no gh gut. If he got those dimensions on only 1.5 - 2g ew or so, he truly is a freak of freaks.

Just my take

[b52]

[QUOTE=Dawgpound_Hank;301627]You mean "Yeeeaaahhh buddddddaaaaaayyyy" doesn't count? Obviously the columns by various bodybuilders in the mags are edited. However the above links I posted are interviews, so the words are verbatim, or at least should be.
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I can only imagine him reading someone their rights while throwing them in the back of a cop car. lmao