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  • liftsiron
    Administrator
    • Nov 2003
    • 18439

    Get 20% Better Results From Testosterone

    Get 20% Better Results From Testosterone
    Subcutaneous TRT
    by TC Luoma | 08/09/16

    20 Percent More Bang

    When T Nation first launched way back in 1998, getting your doctor to prescribe testosterone to you was tricky. Luckily most docs are up to speed these days on testosterone-replacement therapy (TRT). Heck, you can even find "low T" centers at your local strip mall and see commercials for testosterone in prime time.

    Today you have the choice of injections, gels, creams, or pellets in treating low T. However, testosterone injections give you the most bang for your buck. And now, a new method may give you 20% extra bang for the very same buck. It's called subcutaneous or "subQ" injection.
    Inject Into Fat, Not Muscle

    If you've been on TRT for any length of time, it's likely your glutes are so scarred up from years of intramuscular (IM) injections that they're starting to resemble a piece of leftover gristle from the Sunday pot roast.

    It's also quite likely those intramuscular injections are causing the occasional painful inflammatory response, in addition to needlessly spiking your estrogen levels. The safer, simpler, and perhaps even more effective way to administer testosterone is into the fatty layer just under the skin, otherwise known as a subcutaneous injection.

    Dr. John Crisler, of the All Things Male Center for Health, has played a huge role in popularizing the subQ method.
    Dr. John Crisler, SubQ Injection Demonstration
    Why SubQ Better

    Going under the skin saves you from approximately 500 potentially damaging intramuscular injections every decade.
    Injecting your testosterone subcutaneously involves the use of a small gauge needle (25 gauge half-inch, or 26 gauge 3/8 inch if you're very lean), thus making it feasible to give yourself two injections per week, which allows for a more even and natural testosterone profile.
    Since you're injecting two times a week, the testosterone is more smoothly metabolized and might even bring estrogen levels down.
    Dr. Crisler believes this method gives you more bang for your testosterone buck. He says that 80 mg of subQ testosterone has the effect of a 100 mg of testosterone administered intramuscularly.
    You can use the same needle to fill your syringe and administer the dose.
    Since there's no danger of puncturing a vein, there's no need to aspirate when you go subQ.

    Syringe
    How You Do It

    Buy yourself some 25 gauge 5/8-inch needles or 26 gauge 3/8-inch needles (if you're very lean) and some 1 cc syringes. There are several diabetes care websites that ship direct to the customer. If you're getting them from your pharmacy, you can ask for tuberculin (TB) syringes that are designed for small subcutaneous doses and make it easy to inject oily testosterone.
    Split your normal weekly dosage into two equal doses. In other words, if you normally inject 200 mg. IM, inject 100 mg. twice a week. If your doctor has you using 100 mg. weekly, inject 50 mg. on Wednesday and 50 mg. Saturday for example.
    Wipe the top of the bottle of testosterone ester with an alcohol swab as you would for IM administration.
    Draw up the testosterone in the pre-determined dosage and simply "dart" the needle into the fat pad on your abdomen, the "love handles," or buttocks. Do not try to squeeze or pinch the fatty area. The short needle will insure the magic juice isn't entering muscle tissue. Inject slowly.
    Feel awesome.
    ADMIN/OWNER@Peak-Muscle
  • BikerTrash
    Vet
    • Aug 2011
    • 2125

    #2
    Interesting read...Thanks
    Many good points in this,especially for the user whom does multiple injects weekly .

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    • Shovel
      VET
      • Jul 2011
      • 2772

      #3
      Does it hurt and leave a huge lump like a missed meth shot!? Lol
      Semper Fi

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      • jrod
        Moderator
        • Jun 2010
        • 1303

        #4
        I'm sure that applies to other gear as well, as long as your not using copious amounts.

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        • Joe0690
          Vet
          • Mar 2007
          • 1205

          #5
          Has anyone tried this

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          • liftsiron
            Administrator
            • Nov 2003
            • 18439

            #6
            Originally posted by Joe0690
            Has anyone tried this
            The author is one of the nation's leading Doctor's on TRT.
            ADMIN/OWNER@Peak-Muscle

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            • Starman
              Vet
              • Sep 2013
              • 115

              #7
              I have been using this method for a couple years and can not imagine going back to im
              MESSAGE TO YOUNGER SELF : GET THE MOTORCYCLE DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE HELMET.
              YOU WILL UNDERSTAND LATER!

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              • Huge1

                #8
                I have heard mixed results by actual users. The biggest problem/complaint is the lump that protrudes. I think if you're too lean it may not be desired. Just a thought.

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                • juced_porkchop
                  Vet
                  • Jun 2011
                  • 191

                  #9
                  good read ty. i know some that swear by it. i havent tried it yet myself. they do say there is a little bump, but if volume is small its not really noticed. prob try it at 0.5-1ml max

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                  • pillsbury
                    Vet
                    • Feb 2013
                    • 73

                    #10
                    Then why the push for different depths in different locations? Was that just bro science?

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                    • Player
                      Registered User
                      • Mar 2016
                      • 130

                      #11
                      I think the idea is that for this not to hurt like a mofo, it needs to be small oil injects. Probably .5cc max. If you're needing to do 1cc per inject this probably isn't for you. And if you're tylrying to run you big ass cycle through a skin pin lol that's gonna suck.

                      No I haven't tried it.

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                      • pillsbury
                        Vet
                        • Feb 2013
                        • 73

                        #12
                        What I mean is ppl buying 1 1/2 pin for glutes 1 for leg 1/2 for delts... So concerned about getting deep as possible. Think there was literature supporting it actually. Simethig like the deeper you injected the faster it was utilized? Or is it bc you need it to be below the fat (muscle) or above (subq) ��

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                        • Deacon
                          Vet
                          • Jan 2005
                          • 3686

                          #13
                          cool read
                          Originally Posted by Doink the clown;
                          "Every gym has the tard who never gets bigger,never shuts up,and never goes away!"


                          "If you say you are not afraid to die either your lying or your a Ghurka,"

                          "Amatures built the Ark - professionals built the Titanic."

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                          • Strongisland631
                            Vet
                            • May 2007
                            • 215

                            #14
                            This is fascinating but I don't understand why you wouldn't pinch the skin on your oblique to ensure it truly is subQ? Otherwise you are going to indeed hit muscle. By pulling out your skin like you would for an HCG injection then its going to hit subq.
                            "It is only till we have lost everything, that we are free to do anything."

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                            • Shovel
                              VET
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 2772

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Starman
                              I have been using this method for a couple years and can not imagine going back to im
                              How much at a time are you doin and how often? IM is getting really old for 1ml weekly...
                              Semper Fi

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