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  • Dawgpound_Hank

    Strength ON vs OFF?

    My question would be do you guys experience more dramatic increases in strength with certain lifts/bdpts compared to others when ON vs OFF? I'm sure many can't answer 100% bcoz you guys never come off, but compare between your trt dose & full blown cycles. With me, it's almost like I can use the same weights in back & bicep exercises when I'm OFF as I do ON. However, with chest, shoulders & tris, I can use MUCH more weight when ON. My incline, militaries & db presses drop bigtime when off. With quads, I can use almost the same weight, but my hams get much stronger when ON. Crazy. Wonder why there isn't a linear increase/decrease in strength all over? How about you guys & gals?
  • liftsiron
    Administrator
    • Nov 2003
    • 18436

    #2
    I was always stronger on.
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    • bufbiker

      #3
      All of my lifts increase when on. But I try to be careful not to injure myself.
      When off I can lift almost as much weight but not for the number of reps as I do on. Obviously some lifts are effected more than others. I would say for smaller muscle groups strength is definately effected. But I'm babbling now.

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      • blm
        Vet
        • Feb 2015
        • 307

        #4
        Definitely stronger on. Especially with 19nor compounds because my joints feel so much better on to of the extra anabolic/androgenic increase. I have to be very careful not to fall into the "more weight, more weight" trap because it feels so good while on. Then when I drop the additional compounds my joints are twice as bad. Not an easy task.

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        • myosaurus
          Vet
          • Mar 2014
          • 222

          #5
          lot of back/bicep exercises can be done with cheating technique while presses can't be assisted by legs and hip like back exercises. does that make sense at all?

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          • Dawgpound_Hank

            #6
            Originally posted by myosaurus
            lot of back/bicep exercises can be done with cheating technique while presses can't be assisted by legs and hip like back exercises. does that make sense at all?
            Certainly does. But being an experienced lifter who has incurred too many lumbar injuries to count, I can assure you that isn't the case here - but probably holds true with many.

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            • Darkness
              Moderator
              • Apr 2011
              • 5657

              #7
              Although most everything is stronger on, like you some lifts more than others. Anything shoulders involved in gets stronger than others. Back is a close second.

              I guess that is kinda odd. I never really thought about it until you posted the question.

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              • bufbiker

                #8
                Points to ponder as we progress on today's path.

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                • Thate
                  Vet
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 3425

                  #9
                  for me any pressing movement that involves the shoulders goes down considerably while off

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                  • basskiller
                    Administrator
                    • Aug 2003
                    • 2868

                    #10
                    weaker when off mostly ... with the exception of upper body. I guess this is due to all the years of hanging sheetrock
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                    • olded
                      Registered User
                      • Jul 2016
                      • 3

                      #11
                      stronger on.

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                      • Canithencer
                        Registered User
                        • Nov 2016
                        • 1

                        #12
                        not sure how you guys but for me on is always better... always stronger!
                        it makes me feel much less anxious and therefore I take much less clonazepam which is amazing for me...

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                        • BrutalHoney
                          VET
                          • Nov 2016
                          • 274

                          #13
                          Of course stronger on, but...

                          My legs/back lose very little. My upper body pulls lose maaaaybe just as little. My pushing tends to die down most noticeably.

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