Help Me Out With Tren Fatigue

[BrutalHoney]

(Repost from SOI so I can get more opinions)

First, some history:

Up until my last cycle I did 500-600 test with 300-350ish npp. Nice steady gains, nothing to complain about.

Last time I finally decided to see what this tren stuff was all about. Going with many people's rule of thumb, I bumped the test to 800 so I could use 400 tren. It was. Fucking. Amazing. Strength just skyrocketed. Size too, first time people actually noticed a significant different. Naturally, I want to do it again.

One problem: around week 4 or 5, that fatigue started kicking in. And by week 7 I had to cut the tren because I couldn't function like I normally do in day to day life. I was just out of it.

I want to do it again, the results were amazing. But I can't be feeling like I just ate thanksgiving dinner 24-7.

So here are my options as I see them.

1- 4-5 weeks tren, npp for a few weeks, then another 4ish with tren.

2- try t3 with it (never ran this before) and see if that keeps me going.

3- split tren with npp

4- just do a lower cycle, like 600/300.

5- possibly a high tren low test would help for reasons I'm not aware? (I'll need some Cialis, I don't think caber would keep up at that point...)


I don't know which will work, I suspect #1 is my best bet. But I'd like to hear if anyone else can help me out with this. And I'd like to run tren straight because it's amazing. I don't know, think I was just running too much?

I want those results! Help meeeee!!!

[Darkness]

Listen carefully: DO NOT RUN TREN WITHOUT MAST.

Your problem is solved. Have a nice day.

[BrutalHoney]

wait whaaaaat?

for... energy?

[Darkness]

wait whaaaaat?

for... energy?

Yes. I'm not going to post a long medical rambling. Trust me or not, mast binding to the PR makes most tren sides go away or greatly reduces them, mainly the nasty ones including the mental crazy and the fatigue. Does nothing for night sweats though.

I had a guy add mast to his tren cycle a few weeks in the other day and he said the positive difference was magically good. As are typical experiences. It goes from feeling shitty to an elevated sense of well being.

And.... You'll need a couple vaginas with that stack.

[Rider]

Yes. I'm not going to post a long medical rambling. Trust me or not, mast binding to the PR makes most tren sides go away or greatly reduces them, mainly the nasty ones including the mental crazy and the fatigue. Does nothing for night sweats though.

I had a guy add mast to his tren cycle a few weeks in the other day and he said the positive difference was magically good. As are typical experiences. It goes from feeling shitty to an elevated sense of well being.

And.... You'll need a couple vaginas with that stack.

Good advice! I got to give this a chance on my next Tren run.
Thanks brother!!

[BrutalHoney]

Whoa...

This may be the best post to ever happen to me.

Any advice on dosages/ratios?

[Darkness]

Whoa...

This may be the best post to ever happen to me.

Any advice on dosages/ratios?

What I've always done is run the same mg mast as the mg tren. That's was based on medical advice from my doctor (before he told me he would kill me if I ever ran tren again lol). It would probably be best to run a similar ester too. I.e if using tren A, run mast P with it, and if using tren E or tren hex, Mast E to go with it.

I'm sure you won't be disappointed.

While we are here I should point out that doing it this was makes it even more androgenic of a cycle and watch your prostate. On the bright side the mast will also add some muscle hardening that only it does the way it does.

[BrutalHoney]

Shit... my stock is low on mast...

And saw palmetto...

But hey man, thanks! If this works and I get no fatigue I'll owe you forever.

[jrod]

I run tren low enough not to have sides. Masteron screws with my prostate. I hated going to public restrooms when I was on mast. I would seize up for every little noise. Took forever to pee!

[Darkness]

I run tren low enough not to have sides. Masteron screws with my prostate. I hated going to public restrooms when I was on mast. I would seize up for every little noise. Took forever to pee!

Low dose daily cialis takes care of that little problem in many cases.

[Glycomann]

Probably the best advice I can give a guy getting into this is to ignore most of what you read on the internet. Instead start conservative and take notes during every cycle. Keep it simple-stupid so you can track positive and negative effects as you go. Broscience is mostly BS and some lead to higher probability of unnecessary side effects. If you can agree that the idea is to feel great and increase performance then you should also agree that nasty side effects are contra to that goal. So start conservative, takes notes and go from there as you learn how your body responds over time.

[BrutalHoney]

And.... You'll need a couple vaginas with that stack.

A week in, and this is coming true big time...

#makeitthree

[Darkness]

A week in, and this is coming true big time...

#makeitthree

Lol like vag

[WidowMaker]

Listen to Darkeness. He speaks the truth

[BrutalHoney]

Hey Darkness,

(I think of Charlie Murphy when I say that)

Quick question: what kind of effects on actual strength/size results from tren have you found when running mast alongside?