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  • surferdude
    Vet
    • Nov 2016
    • 8

    Stack question for cycle - Deca, EQ, Primo, Test and Tbol to front load - too much?

    Hi

    This is my 5th cycle and I'm considering using all these compounds. The injectables will be for 14 weeks and the oral Tbol will be for 6 weeks.

    I wanted to know if this is a good cycle or if there are too many compounds in it to run it safely and if so, what should I remove?

    Tbol - 60 mgs ED for 6 weeks
    Deca - 400 mgs week
    Test cyp - 500 mgs week
    EQ - 600 mgs week
    Primo - 800 mgs week


    If I need to remove one compound, I'm thinking it should be the EQ because I've read that Deca and Primo work great together. But does that mean I don't need Tbol if I just run Deca and Primo and Test together?

    My ancillaries will be:

    aromasin 12.5 mgs EOD
    Caber .5 mgs every three days

    My PCT will be the "Perfect PCT" written on evolutionary.org which every person replies to for all the threads on this board.

    Thanks
  • Joe0690
    Vet
    • Mar 2007
    • 1205

    #2
    I would remove the primo just cuz I think eq and deca work a lot better together and I don't think you will feel too much more from 800 primo in there either way so why run extra for nothing

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    • BrutalHoney
      VET
      • Nov 2016
      • 274

      #3
      That's a loooot of gear...

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      • Glycomann

        #4
        Originally posted by surferdude
        Hi



        Tbol - 60 mgs ED for 6 weeks
        Deca - 400 mgs week
        Test cyp - 500 mgs week
        EQ - 600 mgs week
        Primo - 800 mgs week
        Yeah too much at once for me. I would split it up.

        Mass gaining phase
        1-8 Test C 200 mg
        1-8 EQ 500 mg
        1-8 Deca 400 mg

        Bridge phase with cleaned up diet
        9-12 hCG 1500 iu; Clomid 50 mg; Test C 100 mg

        Diet recomp phase
        13-20 Test C 200 mg
        13-20 Primo 800 mg
        16-20 Tbol 50 mg/d

        Sad phase
        PCT

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        • andrew0409
          Vet
          • Sep 2016
          • 137

          #5
          I would drop the primo, too much is subjective I guess depending on person to person and goals. I find it true that some people are more sensitive and their genetics are much better and taking like 500mg of test ew they can do what some can only do at 1 gram.

          But I think save the primo if you have that kind of cash, Primo too light for what it does when you already have deca and eq you won't feel much of a difference.

          Save the primo cycle on it's own after to cut down bf% thats what I would do. Do primo with var and test after a heavy cycle.

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          • ozzy69
            Assistant Admin
            • Jun 2011
            • 4820

            #6
            Listen to glycomann he's the chemist here

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            • Glycomann

              #7
              Originally posted by ozzy69
              Listen to glycomann he's the chemist here
              Thanks cousin Ozzy.

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              • Darkness
                Moderator
                • Apr 2011
                • 5657

                #8
                When I saw all that gear in a fifth cycle I thought "holy shit". And front load it? Holy phuckin shit.

                G has a plan I would use.

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                • Dawgpound_Hank

                  #9
                  And my fifth was test, deca & dbol haha. Way too many compounds IMO.

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                  • Dawgpound_Hank

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Glycomann

                    Sad phase
                    PCT
                    For sure - coming out of that now!

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                    • liftsiron
                      Administrator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 18443

                      #11
                      I would drop the deca and tbol, I love primo.
                      ADMIN/OWNER@Peak-Muscle

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                      • MR. BMJ
                        Moderator
                        • Apr 2006
                        • 3209

                        #12
                        Well.....I would run boron stacked with Smilax Gold and train using Cybergenics.

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                        • Glycomann

                          #13
                          Originally posted by MR. BMJ
                          Well.....I would run boron stacked with Smilax Gold and train using Cybergenics.
                          I remember all that crap LOL.

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                          • surferdude
                            Vet
                            • Nov 2016
                            • 8

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Glycomann
                            Yeah too much at once for me. I would split it up.

                            Mass gaining phase
                            1-8 Test C 200 mg
                            1-8 EQ 500 mg
                            1-8 Deca 400 mg

                            Bridge phase with cleaned up diet
                            9-12 hCG 1500 iu; Clomid 50 mg; Test C 100 mg

                            Diet recomp phase
                            13-20 Test C 200 mg
                            13-20 Primo 800 mg
                            16-20 Tbol 50 mg/d

                            Sad phase
                            PCT


                            Hi Glycoman

                            Thanks for the info. I've been watching the Dylan Gimelli youtube videos on Deca and Primo and EQ and he said that Primo and EQ should be run for at least 14 weeks (ideally 16) because they take so long to kick in due to the long esters.

                            I've also never seen a bridge in between cycles like this. Is this something new?

                            I usually run a cycle 12-16 weeks and then pct for 4 weeks and then just let my body recuperate for the time I was on gear.

                            Dylan also suggested front loading with Tbol for 4 weeks while I wait for the Primo and EQ to kick in. Is this something you also suggest?

                            I will leave the EQ out since this is plenty of gear already.

                            Thanks to everyone who replied.

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                            • Dawgpound_Hank

                              #15
                              Originally posted by surferdude
                              I usually run a cycle 12-16 weeks and then pct for 4 weeks and then just let my body recuperate for the time I was on gear.
                              Do. Just. That!

                              Can't beat the ol' time on/time off gig. Gives the body a complete break and time to normalize.

                              Also good to see you are dropping a compound or two - you don't need near that much to grow. Hit the iron hard & eat nutritiously and you will grow.

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