Masteron

[b52]

Why does everyone like it so much? I've heard some say it helps with tren sides. I don't get those so I can't vouch for that. Other than that it really doesn't do anything or I should say visually doesn't do anything unless you're already pretty lean. Last few bottles I had I gave away as I'm just not a huge fan. Pretty weak imo. What are the reasons you guys like it, and for what purpose are you running it?

[Kluso]

A lot of guys will use it for estrogen sides. I personally like proviron better for that. I used to not be able to use deca without a serm. But recently. About a year ago found out I can use proviron to prevent gyno from deca and dbol too. I can now run 50mg ed of dbol with no gyno growth. Nipples don’t even get sensitive!

[b52]

A lot of guys will use it for estrogen sides. I personally like proviron better for that. I used to not be able to use deca without a serm. But recently. About a year ago found out I can use proviron to prevent gyno from deca and dbol too. I can now run 50mg ed of dbol with no gyno growth. Nipples don’t even get sensitive!

No shit? I never thought of proviron for that. How is it with tren? I only ask cuz caber and tren is a rough go. I feel like a serial killer in my mind only with sex instead of killing. It's bizarre.

[Kluso]

No shit? I never thought of proviron for that. How is it with tren? I only ask cuz caber and tren is a rough go. I feel like a serial killer in my mind only with sex instead of killing. It's bizarre.

Yeah! It seriously blew my mind when it worked. I tried it with dbol first and then I started thinking, maybe it would work for deca too. I got up to 900mg per week! I couldn’t even run 150mg per week of deca without the lump under my left nipple swelling up. And I hated running nolva cause it killed my libido and honestly feel like nolva I’m cycle fucks with my gains too. So I had gave up on deca a long time ago. As for tren I can’t say. I’m actually not a big fan on tren. At least for bulking cause it just fucks up my digestion too much. So I haven’t ran it since I started experimenting with the proviron. But I would say if tren fucks with your gyno I bet it would help. Mast is sopposed to do the same thing. And even winny to some extent. It was explained to me that it has to do with the androgen to estrogen ratio. At least that’s one theory. Doesn’t really explain why it works with deca though

[Kluso]

But yeah I would much rather add an androgen to control gyno than an AI or SERM any day!

[b52]

Yeah! It seriously blew my mind when it worked. I tried it with dbol first and then I started thinking, maybe it would work for deca too. I got up to 900mg per week! I couldn’t even run 150mg per week of deca without the lump under my left nipple swelling up. And I hated running nolva cause it killed my libido and honestly feel like nolva I’m cycle fucks with my gains too. So I had gave up on deca a long time ago. As for tren I can’t say. I’m actually not a big fan on tren. At least for bulking cause it just fucks up my digestion too much. So I haven’t ran it since I started experimenting with the proviron. But I would say if tren fucks with your gyno I bet it would help. Mast is sopposed to do the same thing. And even winny to some extent. It was explained to me that it has to do with the androgen to estrogen ratio. At least that’s one theory. Doesn’t really explain why it works with deca though

For me it's the prolactin with nandrolones. I don't mind a little nipple soreness or a little puffiness, because it always subsides after a few weeks of discontinuing. As long as I can keep it controlled with caber a little soreness doesn't bother me. It's the sex drive that bothers me. Never thought I'd say that like it's a bad thing but you become a slave to it. Makes me not want to run tren anymore because of that. I need caber with it so it's a double edged sword.

[Glycomann]

Guess it depends on what you want. It leans me out and fills me in. I have all the muscle I'm ever going to have so what I look for in a quick bump up is leaning out and restoration of muscle memory size. So for me it gives me exactly what I want with minimal side effects.

[Glycomann]

Yeah! It seriously blew my mind when it worked. I tried it with dbol first and then I started thinking, maybe it would work for deca too. I got up to 900mg per week! I couldn’t even run 150mg per week of deca without the lump under my left nipple swelling up. And I hated running nolva cause it killed my libido and honestly feel like nolva I’m cycle fucks with my gains too. So I had gave up on deca a long time ago. As for tren I can’t say. I’m actually not a big fan on tren. At least for bulking cause it just fucks up my digestion too much. So I haven’t ran it since I started experimenting with the proviron. But I would say if tren fucks with your gyno I bet it would help. Mast is sopposed to do the same thing. And even winny to some extent. It was explained to me that it has to do with the androgen to estrogen ratio. At least that’s one theory. Doesn’t really explain why it works with deca though

I run mast with NPP and it pretty much kills nandrolone side effects in the medium term. I haven't pushed it on length of time. Actually I think they sort of offset each other's side effects. NPP kills Mast oily skin and Mast kills NPP nips and dickie issues. But it also depends on how you handle test so the whole thing is trial an error if you wan to run higher test. IMO.

[Aklion]

I love masteron. To me, it's very similar to tren. I kind of think of it like a "baby tren" but without the night sweats and insane fat loss. My aggression goes way up with mast, I get very strong and more vascular, and I want to fuck everything that moves. I have "raged" harder on masteron and test than I did running mast, tren, and test short esters. It is a "superman" steroid to me in that it gives me a similar feeling to tren where I feel invincible.

[liftsiron]

I also prefer proviron to mast. I also like taking an oral instead of another poke.

[Big B]

I also prefer proviron to mast. I also like taking an oral instead of another poke.

Same here...

[Kluso]

I also prefer proviron to mast. I also like taking an oral instead of another poke.

Yep, leaves more room for more powerful AAS. The less oil I have to put in my body the better. Never been a fan of pinning ed or even eod. Most I will do now is mom,wed, Friday. Although when I got up to 100mg proviron ed my liver enzymes definitely increased. So I have to watch that. But I only needed that much when I took the deca up to 900mg per week. It was just an experiment cause I had never really givin deca a real run before. I think 600mg is all I will ever need at the most. 900 just made me lethargic as hell with minimal increase in gains.

[Ripitup]

I have to agree with you on that. I think it's funny when people say that mast controls there estrogen. The other one that makes me laugh is that when people say mast decreases aromatase activity.

Tren definitely makes most people hyper-sexual and I have to agree that it makes you feel like a slave to sex...begging my wife every second. Sound like a good problem but it can be frustrating when she tells me "damn we just had sex". Problem is that when you come off of the tren, even if you stay on test when you come off the tren, it crushes your libido and also causes some erectile dysfunction and it takes a long time to correct it self and level back out to normal.

[b52]

I have to agree with you on that. I think it's funny when people say that mast controls there estrogen. The other one that makes me laugh is that when people say mast decreases aromatase activity.

Tren definitely makes most people hyper-sexual and I have to agree that it makes you feel like a slave to sex...begging my wife every second. Sound like a good problem but it can be frustrating when she tells me "damn we just had sex". Problem is that when you come off of the tren, even if you stay on test when you come off the tren, it crushes your libido and also causes some erectile dysfunction and it takes a long time to correct it self and level back out to normal.

Never had that issue with libido. I'm good to go even after pct. Lucky I guess although my drive is nowhere near as high.

[Ripitup]

Well it won't be for sure. Tren causes hyper sexuality and there's no way to maintain that libido increase you get on tren.