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  • Puff88
    VET
    • Jan 2019
    • 302

    List & Order of "Mild" Steroids

    Greetings Gents & Gals,

    Regarding some of the "milder" steroids in regard to toxicity and sides, how would you rank them in order order of lowest to highest? Not looking for an entire ordered list of every drug out there, just generally speaking some of the drugs we know as the less harsh compounds, in a suggested order that one start to work through as they begin steroid cycles.

    Recently started on TRT and will be planning my first blast in the spring, which will be a higher dose of test along with anavar. My next blast after that will use Winstrol instead of var. As I plan for future runs, trying to get a better idea of what would be the next best option as I look to expand my options.

    My biggest factors regarding sides - stress on organs (liver, kidney, heart, etc) as well as working with drugs that have lower aromatization rates.

    I don't know too much about it at this point, but how would NPP be for someone who only has some experience with milder orals?
  • 01dragonslayer
    Banned
    • Apr 2018
    • 2343

    #2
    IMO.... most are safe in moderation. The harshest and strongest are Anadrol, Methyl tren, Superdrol, M1T, Halo, Trenbolone to name a few. The safest are Anavar, Deca, Test, equipoise primo....again to name a few. Some people are just more susceptible to side effects so you have to be aware of any side effects for anything that you are taking. But always remember that moderation is the key. More is not necessarily better .

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    • Puff88
      VET
      • Jan 2019
      • 302

      #3
      100% agree and understand "moderation". Everything i am doing and planning for over the next 1-2 years is experimenting with the lowest possible dose to yield results without facing horrible sides.

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      • 01dragonslayer
        Banned
        • Apr 2018
        • 2343

        #4
        Originally posted by Puff88
        100% agree and understand "moderation". Everything i am doing and planning for over the next 1-2 years is experimenting with the lowest possible dose to yield results without facing horrible sides.
        Thats the best philosophy you can have. I like your thinking my friend.

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        • Deacon
          Vet
          • Jan 2005
          • 3686

          #5
          stay with lower doses - train hard and eat well - get plenty of rest - bad diet and overtraining kill more muscle than anything
          Originally Posted by Doink the clown;
          "Every gym has the tard who never gets bigger,never shuts up,and never goes away!"


          "If you say you are not afraid to die either your lying or your a Ghurka,"

          "Amatures built the Ark - professionals built the Titanic."

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          • Rebornlite
            VET
            • Dec 2018
            • 372

            #6
            Originally posted by Puff88
            Greetings Gents & Gals,

            Regarding some of the "milder" steroids in regard to toxicity and sides, how would you rank them in order order of lowest to highest? Not looking for an entire ordered list of every drug out there, just generally speaking some of the drugs we know as the less harsh compounds, in a suggested order that one start to work through as they begin steroid cycles.

            Recently started on TRT and will be planning my first blast in the spring, which will be a higher dose of test along with anavar. My next blast after that will use Winstrol instead of var. As I plan for future runs, trying to get a better idea of what would be the next best option as I look to expand my options.

            My biggest factors regarding sides - stress on organs (liver, kidney, heart, etc) as well as working with drugs that have lower aromatization rates.

            I don't know too much about it at this point, but how would NPP be for someone who only has some experience with milder orals?
            I too am down this road after starting TRT few years back. I personally blast with MastE or PrimoE and TestE/250 wk. Winny has always been hard on my BP, liver, kidneys. I have had good sucess with Var as preworkout only. Good luck brother

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            • A.B
              VET
              • Jun 2004
              • 2333

              #7
              My list of mild steroids that I use. I don’t use tren. Mast. Winni. Drol. Dbol. Mainly from hairloss I don’t do well with those. Also I prefer a better sense of well being and most don’t do that for me with those compounds.

              Low dose test. Don’t get much sides on a trt dose of test

              Tbol. Good builder but without much of any sides. No water or hair loss

              Deca. Low dose. Don’t get ED issues until venturing higher doses above 400mg

              Proviron. Zero sides. Improved sexual function due to SHBG and AI effects.

              Eq. Decent builder but blood pressures rises a little bit.

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              • Puff88
                VET
                • Jan 2019
                • 302

                #8
                Thanks for sharing!

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                • Darkness
                  Moderator
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 5657

                  #9
                  Primo e is the shit for us older fellas

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                  • Puff88
                    VET
                    • Jan 2019
                    • 302

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Darkness
                    Primo e is the shit for us older fellas
                    Why is that?

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                    • jrod
                      Moderator
                      • Jun 2010
                      • 1304

                      #11
                      Milder I suppose and get good results

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                      • A.B
                        VET
                        • Jun 2004
                        • 2333

                        #12
                        Milder, dht derivatives are very nice to add to a trt dose of test

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                        • Darkness
                          Moderator
                          • Apr 2011
                          • 5657

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Puff88
                          Why is that?
                          I have found myself able to run it as high doses like a gram a week to get very good results, while getting zero sides. In fact it gives me a lot of energy and a sense of well being. An older guy doesn’t need the high androgens often and the sides that come with them.

                          I love the way it fills me up and I look pumped 24/7. Keep it cranking wether bulking or cutting in the cycle. Near zero water retention.

                          Only down side is the price. Taking a gram a week is a bit pricey.

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                          • Warhead14
                            Banned
                            • Feb 2013
                            • 264

                            #14
                            I have always used lighter substances. Anavar, Primo,Test, Masteron.

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                            • Rebornlite
                              VET
                              • Dec 2018
                              • 372

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Warhead14
                              I have always used lighter substances. Anavar, Primo,Test, Masteron.
                              These are also my favorite , I tolerate them well and I feel youthful. I will admit my hairline is suffering now that I am pushing 40. I will have to minimize the hairloss before my next run.

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