Human Chorionic Gonadrotropin-HCG

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  • rado

    Human Chorionic Gonadrotropin-HCG

    Description: HCG is provided as a glycoprotein powder to be diluted with water, and acts in the body like LH, stimulating the testes to produce testosterone even when natural LH is not present or is deficient.

    It therefore is useful for maintaining testosterone production and/or testicle size during a steroid cycle. Use of this drug in the taper is rather counterproductive, since the resulting increased testosterone production is itself inhibitory to the hypothalamus and pituitary, delaying recovery.

    Thus, if this drug is used, it is preferably used during the cycle itself. A daily amount of 500 IU is generally sufficient, and in my opinion usage should not exceed 1000 IU per day.

    Daily administration is superior to less frequent administration.

    Doses over 1000 IU are noted for their tendency to cause or aggravate gynecomastia, and also act to desensitize the testicles to LH.

    HCG may be injected intramuscularly, subcutaneously, or in a shallow injection about 1/4" deep with the needle going straight in. A 29 gauge insulin needle is recommended. Injection speed should be slow.

    Some HCG products are diluted 5000 or even 10,000 IU per mL, while others are diluted 1000 IU per mL. So far as I know there is no need to make the preparation so dilute.

    Once mixed, the preparation should be refrigerated and used within a few weeks. The substance is also somewhat temperature sensitive before mixing and should not be exposed to excessive heat.

    HCG does not correct the problem of progressively-decreasing ejaculatory volume that is typical during a steroid cycle. So far as I know the only cure is to go off-cycle and use Clomid, but it is possible that HMG, a related drug which works analogously to FSH might be useful during a cycle to treat this problem.

    HMG supports spermatogenesis and is commonly used in conjunction with HCG to treat male fertility problems. (Consider use of HMG to maintain ejaculatory volume to be a strictly past-the-cutting-edge hypothesis: I have not yet had the opportunity to test the matter.)

    The athlete who would otherwise fail a urinary ratio test because of low epitestosterone may find HCG useful in increasing epitestosterone and therefore improving this ratio. A 500 IU dose is sufficient, but on the other hand, HCG itself is also banned by the IOC and is readily detected in urine.

    HCG can also useful for returning testosterone to normal levels should levels be low post-cycle, or, with care, to increase levels from normal to high normal. Titration of the dose, by measuring T levels and then adjusting the HCG dose accordingly, is recommended for long term use.
  • rado

    #2
    One example of how to use hcg.

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    • IHateCrunches

      #3
      I have been thinking of using it starting the third week of a 18 weeks cycle and using it at 500ius 2x a week till week 19.. then week 20 start the clomid/nolva

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      • rado

        #4
        Originally posted by IHateCrunches
        I have been thinking of using it starting the third week of a 18 weeks cycle and using it at 500ius 2x a week till week 19.. then week 20 start the clomid/nolva
        18 week cycle? how many have you done already? what will the cycle consist of? I would use hcg from start to finish, don't wait until later....and it's 500 iu's E4D....

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        • bigkarch

          #5
          I think hcg is about the most understood and has the most contoversy about how to use it....I have been on trt and my doc prescribed it at 1000 iu ed for 7 days pct only...I feel that is too much and started a search on hcg to see how it was best used...dont forget that hcg is prescribed mostly for people on trt or have hypogonadism....so it is a bit different in its studies than a bb using it to get his boys back up..but the general consensus was about 250-500 iu every three days, during a cycle....Never tried that before but will do so next cycle to compare it vs. pct only.....good post...

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          • zeke
            Vet
            • May 2005
            • 666

            #6
            Good points BK. I'm running a pretty long cycle, but have chosen to wait until the end to run hcg. Going to run for 14-20 days at 500iu's a day, unless some new information pops up before hand. Last sust shot will be August 27th.

            Z-

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            • IHateCrunches

              #7
              Originally posted by rado
              18 week cycle? how many have you done already? what will the cycle consist of? I would use hcg from start to finish, don't wait until later....and it's 500 iu's E4D....
              Cycle will be 375-500mg test enethat and 50mg var along with 7 days of 10mg m1t (its left over and i wanna get rid of it)

              I did one good cycle but had shoudler surgery durign the pct so i lost everything... and then some

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              • rado

                #8
                Originally posted by bigkarch
                but the general consensus was about 250-500 iu every three days, during a cycle....good post...


                I wish everyone would believe this here. I've always said to use HCG at 500 iu's E4D

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