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basskiller 05-19-2014 11:31 AM

Anti-Estrogens used as a fat burning cycle
 
Most people have heard of Anti-E's due to their role in a person's steroid cycle. Anti-Estrogens are used to prevent gynocomastia (the formation of breast tissue) from steroids that aromatize and also reduce water retention. However, Anti-Estrogens can be also used for a host of other reasons, and in our case, fat loss. Estrogen is a "fattening" hormone, and if it is kept in check while dieting you can receive a hard look without even using anabolic steroids. If you don't believe me, notice the body fat gain when a girl starts using birth control, this is caused by the increase in estrogen levels.

The best drugs for this effect would be Nolvadex (if you are not using anabolic drugs), or the much more powerful (but also very expensive)Arimidex and Femara. Dosages of Nolvadex are usually between 20mg and 40mg a day, Arimidex is usually 1/2mg to 1mg a day, and for Femara, one 2.5mg tab could be used ED or EOD. These could all be used by them self but you could stack Nolvadex with Arimidex or Femara due to the fact that Nolvadex and Arimidex both effect estrogen in the body differently.

These are very good for the natural dieter due to the fact that they will give you a hard (steroid) look, and they will also allow you to retain more muscle mass while dieting. For someone using Anabolic drugs during a fat loss cycle, they should be used regardless because of steroids aromatizing into estrogen, and also they will keep water down and give you a "dry" look.

So here they are, but how would you combine them for the best results? Lets put together a theoretical cycle using only the drugs mentioned in the article for someone who has used them before, for someone that has not, just taper like stated in the article.

Week 1-2

◾20mg of Nolvadex
◾60mcg of Clenbuterol upon wakening
◾50mcg of Cytomel ( T-3)
◾1 tab of Yohimbine around 30min after the Clen
◾25mcg of Cytomel ( T-3)
◾60mcg of Clenbuterol before 2-4 p.m.
◾1 tab of Yohimbine around 30min after the Clen
◾2000mg of Metformin spread through out the day

Weeks 3-4

◾Same as the previous weeks, but switch the Clen with ECA, if you want to you can also increase the Nolvadex to 40mg a day.

Weeks 5-6

◾Drop the ECA and the Yohimbine, and taper down the dosage of T-3 by 25mcg each week, you can keep the Metformin the same or drop it if you want.

Weeks 7-10

Stay off all the drugs and keep your calories the same or slightly increase your carb intake (if you are on low carbs) to aid in your metabolism. During these weeks your metabolism will be sluggish, so watch your diet and keep up with your cardio, the diet isn't over yet.

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jrod 07-03-2014 10:27 AM

Could women also use this for fat burning?

irish_2003 07-03-2014 12:04 PM

i've read in europe that clomid and clen are typically used during pct

liftsiron 07-03-2014 01:27 PM

T3 and the clen are burning the fat, but nolvadex will help harden a women. Proviron and nolvadex have been a long time favored pre contest stack for women competirors.

liftsiron 07-03-2014 01:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrod (Post 287734)
Could women also use this for fat burning?

Yes, the clen dose may need to be tapered downward and for most the Metformin probably wouldn't be needed.

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Magnesium 01-13-2015 02:07 AM

Thanks for this post BK. It is a great breakdown without being excessively long.
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