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Joe0690 08-10-2019 04:10 PM

Worst compounds for heart health?
 
What are the worst drugs for the heart?

Glycomann 08-10-2019 05:18 PM

Maybe Clenbuterol and Trenbolone.

b52 08-10-2019 06:58 PM

Eq is also not the best. The vascularity people desire from it is technically not a "good thing."

MR. BMJ 08-10-2019 09:32 PM

Winstrol eviscerates HDl, lol.

liftsiron 08-11-2019 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by b52 (Post 361105)
Eq is also not the best. The vascularity people desire from it is technically not a "good thing."

Why?

jrod 08-11-2019 04:26 AM

Perhaps he’s referring to the increase it causes in rbc’s?

b52 08-11-2019 10:07 AM

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Originally Posted by liftsiron (Post 361108)
Why?

Increase in red blood cells in some, not all is enough to cause the heart valves to not operate as they should. I read a study on it a while back I'll see if i can find it. The vascularity is one of the desirable affects of eq but it stems from the heart valves not operating 100%.

liftsiron 08-11-2019 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by b52 (Post 361116)
Increase in red blood cells in some, not all is enough to cause the heart valves to not operate as they should. I read a study on it a while back I'll see if i can find it. The vascularity is one of the desirable affects of eq but it stems from the heart valves not operating 100%.

I would like to see the study. I'll look and see what I can find in regard to this also.

b52 08-11-2019 01:39 PM

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Originally Posted by liftsiron (Post 361108)
Why?

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Originally Posted by liftsiron (Post 361117)
I would like to see the study. I'll look and see what I can find in regard to this also.

I will look when I'm free. It was written by a doctor who studied patients that were using equipoise. It was a little while back but I'm sure it's floating around.

Glycomann 08-11-2019 02:41 PM

My understanding is that the vascularity from EQ is related ti high red cells in the presence of lower estrogen. So is is like a tick full of blood kind of effect. EQ and anadrol are the most effective at raising red cells and consequently blood volume. Heavy androgens stimulate the androgen receptors in smooth muscle including the vasculature. As result the cells become hypertonic and cannot pump as efficiently. Most don't realize that the vasculature pumps.

liftsiron 08-11-2019 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Glycomann (Post 361131)
My understanding is that the vascularity from EQ is related ti high red cells in the presence of lower estrogen. So is is like a tick full of blood kind of effect. EQ and anadrol are the most effective at raising red cells and consequently blood volume. Heavy androgens stimulate the androgen receptors in smooth muscle including the vasculature. As result the cells become hypertonic and cannot pump as efficiently. Most don't realize that the vasculature pumps.

This sounds right, I get great vasculaity without any rise in blood pressure. I don't do super high doses like those that some guys claim to do either.

b52 08-11-2019 05:47 PM

How do you post a pdf

Friggemall 08-12-2019 11:32 AM

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How do you post a pdf

I have to do this in 3 posts sorry...

Friggemall 08-12-2019 11:36 AM

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Next his manage attachments

Friggemall 08-12-2019 11:36 AM

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then browse and upload


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