For those who have ran pharm grade GH....

[01dragonslayer]

....I am highly considering making the switch to some Norditropin. I am currently running gold tops at 5iu/day and I am wondering what would be a comparable dose of pharm grade Norditropin GH. Through research I have found that the difference between pharm grade and generics is night and day. I am very anxious as this will be my first opportunity to cycle pharm grade and am definitely looking forward to giving it a go.

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[Dawgpound_Hank]

I've heard some, like Warhead, say generics can't even come close to comparing to the real deal. Yet I've heard others, like Dakota, say ZPTropins are as good as Saizens. Not to say ZPTropins are technically generics, but they are not pharma. Myself, I've never tried pharma GH - simply can't afford it haha. Lucky bastud - enjoy it!

p.s - Matt Porter (RIP) put out a good video debating Ahmin a year or two ago saying good quality generics are just as good as pharma. He ran them a lot due to the price, and swore up and down he couldn't tell a diff. But the key is "good quality" - obviously there's a ton of shit out there.

[01dragonslayer]

I've heard some, like Warhead, say generics can't even come close to comparing to the real deal. Yet I've heard others, like Dakota, say ZPTropins are as good as Saizens. Not to say ZPTropins are technically generics, but they are not pharma. Myself, I've never tried pharma GH - simply can't afford it haha. Lucky bastud - enjoy it!

p.s - Matt Porter (RIP) put out a good video debating Ahmin a year or two ago saying good quality generics are just as good as pharma. He ran them a lot due to the price, and swore up and down he couldn't tell a diff. But the key is "good quality" - obviously there's a ton of shit out there.

Thanks for the reply. I just have a unique opportunity to finally give pharm grade GH a run with Nords available at a very decent price. Most of all who I have questioned have all said that between pharm grade and generics there is really no comparison.

[Roughrydr]

Never ran pharmacy gh. Enjoy. Let us know your take.

[01dragonslayer]

Never ran pharmacy gh. Enjoy. Let us know your take.

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[Dakota]

As much as I am a fan of Ztrops, especially for the price, i would still give the edge to Saizen. It may be that I was already on Saizen when I started the the Zs but when I first started taking Saizen I was astonished at the difference. I had used several generics in the past.

I also dont remember ever reading about somebody that went to pharm that wasn't equally impressed over generics. The biggest fans of generics are those that have never tried pharm

[Jester3378]

I’ve run plenty of both. In a maintenance phase I’ll run 2ius of pharm from Estrogen Guy daily for the recovery benefits. Yes they are more expensive but at the low dose it’s not terrible and I just like the feeling of knowing exactly what’s in them for those 9 months of the year. If I’m pushing a weight gain phase, and therefore taking my dose up to 5 or 6ius I’ll usually go black or greys from TP. I don’t really do this much anymore because the lethargy and water retention from higher doses of GH just aren’t worth it for me but in the past this has been a worthwhile and economical choice. If you’re one of the big boys taking 10ius a day I can’t imagine going pharma.

Most of the experts in the field of pharmacology agree that with the new production methods a good generic is pharma, you’re just not paying for trademarks and patent protection. If dimers are low and purity is high you’ll see the same results and sides. The rest is usually psychological.

But, as I said prior, I still pay for pharma because psychology is a bitch. Even if I “know” they’re the same I “feel” better taking pharma. Not scientific at all but peace of mind is worth it.

GH manufacturing costs have come way down and generics can be produced pretty readily. Just have to be sure your source is giving you GH and not some dogshit. Pharma

[HDH]

I’ve run plenty of both. In a maintenance phase I’ll run 2ius of pharm from Estrogen Guy daily for the recovery benefits. Yes they are more expensive but at the low dose it’s not terrible and I just like the feeling of knowing exactly what’s in them for those 9 months of the year. If I’m pushing a weight gain phase, and therefore taking my dose up to 5 or 6ius I’ll usually go black or greys from TP. I don’t really do this much anymore because the lethargy and water retention from higher doses of GH just aren’t worth it for me but in the past this has been a worthwhile and economical choice. If you’re one of the big boys taking 10ius a day I can’t imagine going pharma.

Most of the experts in the field of pharmacology agree that with the new production methods a good generic is pharma, you’re just not paying for trademarks and patent protection. If dimers are low and purity is high you’ll see the same results and sides. The rest is usually psychological.

But, as I said prior, I still pay for pharma because psychology is a bitch. Even if I “know” they’re the same I “feel” better taking pharma. Not scientific at all but peace of mind is worth it.

GH manufacturing costs have come way down and generics can be produced pretty readily. Just have to be sure your source is giving you GH and not some dogshit. Pharma

Yes sir, you are correct on some of these generics being close to pharma. TP's dimmers have been extremely low on blacks, greys and mauves. The greys aren't what they used to be since the change of factories. Some are batching out just below 99%.

I just got a few of the mauves #79 and they tested 99.325% with no dimmer detected.

[Bigpapapumpaf]

In general pharma will blow away generics because the quality is a given. There are some good generics out there handled by good sources but they are hard to come by.

BPP

[01dragonslayer]

In general pharma will blow away generics because the quality is a given. There are some good generics out there handled by good sources but they are hard to come by.

BPP

I am about to pull the trigger on some pharma grade....you have a preference?....am seriously considering Nords.

[nelson.howard]

Do not use only oral cycle...add injection. It’s pretty simple. There are plenty of vids demonstrating proper injection technique. The first time I injected was in my shoulder. By the way, my doc advised me buy in https://steroidsfax.org/injectables-steroids

Even though my doc said to use them, they ripped me off.

[01dragonslayer]

Do not use only oral cycle...add injection. It’s pretty simple. There are plenty of vids demonstrating proper injection technique. The first time I injected was in my shoulder.

Don't plan on it my friend. Not to worry I have plenty of cycles under my belt. Thanks for the heads-up brotha.

[Dakota]

Don't plan on it my friend. Not to worry I have plenty of cycles under my belt. Thanks for the heads-up brotha.

It is your cycle bro, but I can't imagine investing in pharma gh without going injectable. Unless it is purely anti aging you seek I would surely go with an injectable too.

[Chooch]

I must be the only one......I’ve run pharm humatrope and seros and I don’t notice any difference between them and good genetics. And yes they were 100% real. Sero were straight from the pharmacy for an aids patient and the humatrope from a buddy that always has legit gear.

[01dragonslayer]

It is your cycle bro, but I can't imagine investing in pharma gh without going injectable. Unless it is purely anti aging you seek I would surely go with an injectable too.

Oh I am my friend. Did I accidently mention an oral only run??....my apologies if I implied that.

I'm goin' with...

Test E
Mast P
NPP
Winny
and the Nords.