CJC-1295 with DAC and Hexarelin Log

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  • Elvia1023

    #16
    Things are going great. Last night I decided to take a little more hexarelin pre bed (still only about 50mcg). I had an amazing sleep and woke up with my hands completely numb. I have trained 3 days in a row so today was a rest day. I usually do 33mcg hexa but again for 1 shot I done about 50mcg again tonight. The slightly higher dose wiped me out completely! I fell asleep for a few hours post injection and woke up about 11:30pm. I feel great though but the higher dose definitely turns relaxation into tiredness. I can tell there is a lot of gh in my system using this protocol

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    • bufbiker

      #17
      How long are you running it for? I've seen 4 weeks as the most you should run but then a later study showed that in elderly people (like me) at 16 weeks elevated gh levels are still occurring.

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      • Elvia1023

        #18
        Originally posted by bufbiker
        How long are you running it for? I've seen 4 weeks as the most you should run but then a later study showed that in elderly people (like me) at 16 weeks elevated gh levels are still occurring.
        I will just go on feel. I like to rotate things every 4-8 weeks and will probably run this combo for about 8 weeks. I want to try our LR3 so I will likely do a high dosed micro inj cycle of LR3 for a few weeks (after this) then try another ghrh/ghrp combo.

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        • Elvia1023

          #19
          I am genuinely loving these peps. My vascularity is coming out big time and I am getting leaner. It's hard to say as my diet has had a few treats in recently so it may be down to that but I have added a small amount of water too. I feel incredible though due to the above and I haven't even been on long. Plus my diet is gonna be strict now and I plan to add 50mg winny ed too.

          The changes have been fast on this pep run. I know it is the peps as everything else had stayed the same. I do 33mcg hexa most times but I have been guilty of adding a little extra in some injs as I love the feeling it brings. I get so laid back and chilled and my hands get tight.

          Last night (Tues) I done 1mg cjc-dac pre bed and had the most amazing sleep. I struggled to get up! I sweat a lot in my sleep too. I am on a small dose of tren but have been on that weeks before this peps run and didn't do it before them. It could also be the high dosed zinc I take pre bed too. Either way they are having a fast and pronounced effect on my body.

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          • Elvia1023

            #20
            Originally posted by bufbiker
            How long are you running it for? I've seen 4 weeks as the most you should run but then a later study showed that in elderly people (like me) at 16 weeks elevated gh levels are still occurring.
            I think with hexarelin if you have the occasional breaks that will helps matters and should prevent desensitization. Even if it is just 1 day every 2 weeks (I plan to do).

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            • bufbiker

              #21
              I'm beginning to wonder if mine's any good. But I have to keep reminding myself that I'm not running any cjc with it, which may make a world of difference. This is my firdst time running a ghrp/ghrh without running cjc with it.

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              • Elvia1023

                #22
                Originally posted by bufbiker
                I'm beginning to wonder if mine's any good. But I have to keep reminding myself that I'm not running any cjc with it, which may make a world of difference. This is my firdst time running a ghrp/ghrh without running cjc with it.
                Yes the difference is huge when you add in the ghrh (as you know). The only ghrp I would use alone is GHRP-6 if I wanted the hunger. But even then I would still probably just add the GHRH to add to results

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                • Elvia1023

                  #23
                  Just tried something new. I am going the gym in a bit so just thought I would try my cjc-dac in the morning. I done that on my left side and hexarelin on the right. That has hit me hard... feeling like putting my legs up on my desk and chilling I will be going the gym though!

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                  • GetBigger

                    #24
                    Originally posted by bufbiker
                    Fast food is the corner stone of a good bulking diet. At least from the stand point of an old fart power lifter like myself. It's hard to eat clean and eat 5000cals a day.
                    healthy fats my friend healthy fats.

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                    • Elvia1023

                      #25
                      I have felt good today. Although my lethargy has been bad. I struggled a lot in work today and it was a fairly easy day. I have to walk up steps quite a lot and they were torture. I had nothing in me and the morning dose would be the culprit. I did train hard in the gym pre work too but I always do that (didn't even train legs). The fatigue from these combo is no joke but apart from work I love the relaxed feeling. Plus the results are so amazing I will put up with it

                      I will resume my pre bed dosing from now on

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                      • Elvia1023

                        #26
                        From the studies I have read desensitization is possible with hexarelin. In numerous studies the gh response to hexarelin in humans becomes attenuated following long term usage. I am not planning to be on it for too long but just to help matters I had a day off from the hexarelin yesterday. I haven't injected today yet but will after this post.

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                        • bufbiker

                          #27
                          Gave my subject 200mcg post training today. Fell asleep within minutes.

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                          • Elvia1023

                            #28
                            Originally posted by bufbiker
                            Gave my subject 200mcg post training today. Fell asleep within minutes.
                            That's a lot! Did you eat/drink anything after training? If not you would be extra sensitive too. I would have fell asleep in the gym car park doing that

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                            • Elvia1023

                              #29
                              I am gonna do 1mg cjc-dac pre bed tonight. It's meant to be 2moro but bringing my dose forward I will do 66mcg hexa with that.

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                              • Elvia1023

                                #30
                                Pulsatile secretion of growth hormone (GH) persists during continuous stimulation by CJC-1295, a long-acting GH-releasing hormone analog.

                                Ionescu M1, Frohman LA.
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                                1Section of Endocrinology, Metabolism, and Diabetes, University of Illinois at Chicago, 1747 West Roosevelt Road, Room 517, Chicago, Illinois 60608, USA.


                                Abstract

                                CONTEXT:

                                Pulsatile GH secretion is considered important for many of the hormone's physiological effects. Short-term GHRH infusions enhance GH pulsatility and increase IGF-I, but the short GHRH half-life limits its therapeutic use. A synthetic GHRH analog (CJC-1295) that binds permanently to endogenous albumin after injection (half-life = 8 d) stimulates GH and IGF-I secretion in several animal species and in normal human subjects and enhances growth in rats.
                                OBJECTIVE:

                                Our objective was to assess GH pulsatility after a single injection of CJC-1295 and determine which GH secretion parameters correlated to the increase in IGF-I production.
                                METHODS:

                                GH pulsatility was assessed by 20-min blood sampling during an overnight 12-h period in healthy 20- to 40-yr-old men before and 1 wk after injection of either 60 or 90 microg/kg CJC-1295.
                                RESULTS:

                                GH secretion was increased after CJC-1295 administration with preserved pulsatility. The frequency and magnitude of GH secretory pulses were unaltered. However, basal (trough) GH levels were markedly increased (7.5-fold; P < 0.0001) and contributed to an overall increase in GH secretion (mean GH levels, 46%; P < 0.01) and IGF-I levels (45%; P < 0.001). No significant differences were observed between the responses to the two drug doses. The IGF-I increases did not correlate with any parameters of GH secretion.
                                CONCLUSIONS:

                                CJC-1295 increased trough and mean GH secretion and IGF-I production with preserved GH pulsatility. The marked enhancement of trough GH levels by continuous GHRH stimulation implicates the importance of this effect on increasing IGF-I. Long-acting GHRH preparations may have clinical utility in patients with intact pituitary GH secretory capability.

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