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  • Dawgpound_Hank

    How much gh does the body make?

    As in per day. Anybody know? As in mcgs, IU's, whatever's understandable/translatable. I've never heard that topic discussed. Obviously it varies, so let's say for a healthy man, and to be more precise, how about a healthy man in his 20's and a healthy man in his 50's?
  • liftsiron
    Administrator
    • Nov 2003
    • 18435

    #2
    Healthy over 50, probably close to nothing.
    ADMIN/OWNER@Peak-Muscle

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    • Moto Ace
      Vet
      • Dec 2015
      • 345

      #3
      If I recall, your body only produces less than 2 iu's, I know that is not the correct label on the amount but I believe it translates to less than 2 IU's. I am currently digging through my notes to verify

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      • Glycomann

        #4
        Normal level is ~ 1-5 nanogram per mL. That translates to ~150-250 ng/mL IGF-1. A general rule of thumb is 1 iu GH translates to 100 ng/mL of IGF-1. GH is suppressive or so the thought process goes so exogenous GH will at least partially reduced end GH. So depending on personal response a replace ent dose would be 1-3 iu.

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        • liftsiron
          Administrator
          • Nov 2003
          • 18435

          #5
          I'm pleased with 2ius ed as far as leaness and hardness are concerned.
          ADMIN/OWNER@Peak-Muscle

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          • Big B
            Banned
            • Jan 2016
            • 1613

            #6
            Originally posted by liftsiron
            I'm pleased with 2ius ed as far as leaness and hardness are concerned.
            with good quality growth, that's plenty...

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            • Dawgpound_Hank

              #7
              Good stuff. Thanks my fellow brethren.

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              • Roughrydr
                Moderator
                • Oct 2017
                • 2176

                #8
                If you can afford it 5 iu's ed post workout will produce amazing results in a few months.
                OFFO




                Muscle Forged In Pain

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                • Joe0690
                  Vet
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1205

                  #9
                  The most important thing I found is getting good stuff in my opinion if y can find or get pharmacy grade gh even if it’s a lot more expensive it will be worth it rather then a chance of spending less on basically nothing with ug labs and what not

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                  • Dawgpound_Hank

                    #10
                    Originally posted by Joe0690
                    The most important thing I found is getting good stuff in my opinion if y can find or get pharmacy grade gh even if it’s a lot more expensive it will be worth it rather then a chance of spending less on basically nothing with ug labs and what not
                    If you're very well off, I agree. But when some ug's do have good shit, proven through bloods, no way in hell would it be "well worth it" when the price is 15-20 fold.

                    Btw, do you run pharma grade? Mind sharing what you paid for it amigo?

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                    • Dawgpound_Hank

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Glycomann
                      Normal level is ~ 1-5 nanogram per mL. That translates to ~150-250 ng/mL IGF-1. A general rule of thumb is 1 iu GH translates to 100 ng/mL of IGF-1. ...
                      If I am interpreting that correctly, does that mean our bodies make 1.5 to 2.5 iu's of gh daily? If I am wrong, can you put in lamens for non brainiacs like me and Buf ( ) - how many iu's of gh a day does our bodies naturally make? I merely like to know this for the same reason as test - like if we make 70mg ew, we know 200mg ew of exogenous test puts us around approx 3x the natural amount, 400mg approx 6x, etc.

                      One other Q - exogenous test makes us stop producing test. I THINK that's not the case with gh right? So hypothetically, if our body makes 2 iu's of gh ed, and we supplement with 2 iu's of gh ed, we are then getting the benefit of 4 iu's of gh ed total? Or does the exogenous gh cancel out a little of what our bodies make, ie, instead of 2 exog + 2 endog, supplementing would make it 2 exog + 1 endog?

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                      • Joe0690
                        Vet
                        • Mar 2007
                        • 1205

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Dawgpound_Hank
                        If you're very well off, I agree. But when some ug's do have good shit, proven through bloods, no way in hell would it be "well worth it" when the price is 15-20 fold.

                        Btw, do you run pharma grade? Mind sharing what you paid for it amigo?
                        Well I’ve used ug labs and pharmacy and results posted by ug don’t always tell the whole story I’ve taken ug hgh that had good bloods and felt nothing compared to when I just by fluke had taken another ug hgh and felt a lot more from it two different times and cycles.

                        Pharmacy grade was between 1200-1800 (Canadian $$)for 105 units so year it’s a lot more expensive . Just cross ur fingers for the ug labs and keep it in the fridge right away even if it’s not mixed . I had a friend who was getting it from someone in the states who had a legit rx for it and was selling it to him for 600$ a kit but I think it was covered for him so he was just making profit off it.

                        In terms for bang for you buck like if ur on a budget and can’t afford much steroids is where it’s at u will not be impressed by gh alone comepared to aas alone in terms of dollar for dollar results and pharmacy grade for me is hard to find even when I have money cause sometimes I come into chunks of money and want to blow it all people can’t get pharmacy hgh
                        Last edited by Joe0690; 04-22-2018, 08:02 AM.

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                        • Glycomann

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Dawgpound_Hank
                          If I am interpreting that correctly, does that mean our bodies make 1.5 to 2.5 iu's of gh daily? If I am wrong, can you put in lamens for non brainiacs like me and Buf ( ) - how many iu's of gh a day does our bodies naturally make? I merely like to know this for the same reason as test - like if we make 70mg ew, we know 200mg ew of exogenous test puts us around approx 3x the natural amount, 400mg approx 6x, etc.

                          One other Q - exogenous test makes us stop producing test. I THINK that's not the case with gh right? So hypothetically, if our body makes 2 iu's of gh ed, and we supplement with 2 iu's of gh ed, we are then getting the benefit of 4 iu's of gh ed total? Or does the exogenous gh cancel out a little of what our bodies make, ie, instead of 2 exog + 2 endog, supplementing would make it 2 exog + 1 endog?
                          I think exo GH does blunt endo GH. The exo will cause increased production of somatostatin, which is the negative regulator of GH production. There are endocrinologist you can find on YouTube that claim in their practice any amount of exogenous GH will blunt natural production. Personally I just had my IGF-1 level checked after a month off GH but with GHRP in place and I was in the middle of the range, actually sort of lowish.

                          So back to how much the body makes, is not a strait forward answer if you are trying to guess how much GH to use to replace it. You would need to get bloodwork done when on GH therapy to die it in. A good aim would be to get in the young adult range around 350 ush. If you go by my estimates 1 iu of good GH yields a 100 increase. So, for me, I am at say 150. If I want to get to 350 I might need between 2 and 4 iu a day.

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                          • Dawgpound_Hank

                            #14
                            Originally posted by Glycomann
                            I think exo GH does blunt endo GH. The exo will cause increased production of somatostatin, which is the negative regulator of GH production. There are endocrinologist you can find on YouTube that claim in their practice any amount of exogenous GH will blunt natural production. Personally I just had my IGF-1 level checked after a month off GH but with GHRP in place and I was in the middle of the range, actually sort of lowish.

                            So back to how much the body makes, is not a strait forward answer if you are trying to guess how much GH to use to replace it. You would need to get bloodwork done when on GH therapy to die it in. A good aim would be to get in the young adult range around 350 ush. If you go by my estimates 1 iu of good GH yields a 100 increase. So, for me, I am at say 150. If I want to get to 350 I might need between 2 and 4 iu a day.
                            Interesting. Appreciate that info.

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                            • Dawgpound_Hank

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Joe0690
                              Well I’ve used ug labs and pharmacy and results posted by ug don’t always tell the whole story I’ve taken ug hgh that had good bloods and felt nothing compared to when I just by fluke had taken another ug hgh and felt a lot more from it two different times and cycles.

                              Pharmacy grade was between 1200-1800 (Canadian $$)for 105 units so year it’s a lot more expensive . Just cross ur fingers for the ug labs and keep it in the fridge right away even if it’s not mixed . I had a friend who was getting it from someone in the states who had a legit rx for it and was selling it to him for 600$ a kit but I think it was covered for him so he was just making profit off it.

                              In terms for bang for you buck like if ur on a budget and can’t afford much steroids is where it’s at u will not be impressed by gh alone comepared to aas alone in terms of dollar for dollar results and pharmacy grade for me is hard to find even when I have money cause sometimes I come into chunks of money and want to blow it all people can’t get pharmacy hgh
                              Appreciate your input. End of the day, I don't compete and in pretty good shape for my age. GH has never even been a player in my physique, and I know tons of guys who runs it with AAS and don't even look so good, so. Only way I will ever even venture trying pharma gh is if I hit the lotto haha. Having a reputable ug source is the way to go IMO, bcoz running gh over the long haul can get expensive - even ug - not to mention the crazy amount of $$ needed for pharma.

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