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  • bufbiker

    #61
    Sounds like it's been pretty good so far. I would stop npp at this point, and stay with tren, mast, prop. Or just mast and prop and add an oral like var for 6 to 8 weeks. That should bust you through your plateau.

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    • Emil
      Vet
      • Oct 2016
      • 146

      #62
      Thanks Buff...i will get out the nnp from next week. But why? I stell fell so good on it...or on everything because i never have such conplex coctail in my...4 compounds.
      But...i propose to rise the masteron propionate from 375 mg per week at 700 per week (200 mg eod).
      What are the vets opinion about that?

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      • bufbiker

        #63
        For me, it's slight overkill. More is better is not always the case. Mast at 150 eod is a nice dose. But it's your cycle. If you want 200 it's your choice.
        I suggested you drop the npp and add an oral because you said you had plateaued.

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        • Emil
          Vet
          • Oct 2016
          • 146

          #64
          You know that i always listen..i will go with 150 mg of masteron prop eod....get out the NNP. The problem is that i plan to finish the cycle in 5 weeks... So in your opinion is good option to add anavar for only 4 weeks? I never take an oral steroid before...it will make a diffrence for such a short period of time?

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          • Emil
            Vet
            • Oct 2016
            • 146

            #65
            Week 11...back home....and hit hard the wall....no more gains for me...maybe fat but not muscle.
            The train is ok...the diat is right but no new muscle. And the scale freeze on 94 kg.
            Tomorrow i will get blood analysis again...it s been almost a month and i feal my hard pump harder and harder...
            If the blood test results are resonable i ll put some.anavar next week in the ecuation...anyway the NNP and tren goes out next week

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            • Emil
              Vet
              • Oct 2016
              • 146

              #66
              Got the blood test results today....everything goes to hell. The LDL reach 175 the total colesterol is 210 and HDL is 20...the only thing rigt is the liver toxicity, absolutly ok.
              So no tren and NNP for me from the next week..in 11 weeks tren get me out of game.
              The mirror says no more muscle in the last week, maybe some fat, the cardio capacity is on the floor...only the mood is where it should be.
              I realy don t know what to do about anavar...for 4 weeks..with my liver...

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              • Emil
                Vet
                • Oct 2016
                • 146

                #67
                Week 15....in fact week 1 of PCT...The results look gorgeous...that what the electronic scale and trainers said. I left in november from 77.5kg (11.5% bf) and finish at 92kg (13% bf)...and from 68 fat free mass i find myself at 78 kg of fat free mass. Still see all the abs.
                The strength is the same and the libido...well just say porn...still the mood on the roof eaven after 4 days without test prop.
                The PCT will be 5 weeks long followed by 4 weeks Off Cycling Terapy.
                The PCT...clomid 50 mg ed for 2 weeks...25 mg another 2 weeks ...12.5 last week.
                Nolva 40 mg ed for 1week 20 mg for 3 weeks and 10 mg last week
                Aromasin 12.5 eod for 2 weeks ...7.5 mg for another 2 weeks.
                Caradine 20 mg ed...ostarine 25mg ed...
                Hcg generate es 5 cap ed...n2guard 7 caps ed

                Plan to finish at 89...91 ..kg .with 12%bf.....with all the muscle....practic planing the imposible...

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                • Emil
                  Vet
                  • Oct 2016
                  • 146

                  #68
                  Week 16 and the 2 wk of PCT.....lost about 1 kg..still strong but not that big...start to feel small...
                  No side efects of the leak of test..maybe a libido decrease .
                  From this week i wil.reduce the nolva from 40 mg to 20mg.
                  Got back 90% of my cardio capacity...i run yesterday 9.5km in 1 hour.
                  Plan to full my diat with protein from real food...and not lose any more weight. But i can definitely say that i lost fat also..my abs look s good.

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                  • BrutalHoney
                    VET
                    • Nov 2016
                    • 274

                    #69
                    Red yeast rice (with coq10) ought to solve your cholesterol woes.

                    Which, by the way, nolva might also be contributing to.

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                    • Emil
                      Vet
                      • Oct 2016
                      • 146

                      #70
                      Week 4 of PCT...i reduce also the ostarine..at 15mg /day. The libido go down and down. Some little ed..nothing serios. Maybe is because from this week i quit caber and cialis.
                      Step by step i came closer to nat. The strenght is here..the cardio is on the roof but look smaller week after week

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                      • Emil
                        Vet
                        • Oct 2016
                        • 146

                        #71
                        Welll.....everything goes very well...as you know i experience low sex drive and low erection power in weeks 4 and 5..after PCT i begin Off cycle terapy...a good t booster 3000mg vit d tribulus betaalanin creatine glutamine zma fish oil calciu 1000 mg acid arahidonic fenugreek and horny goat.
                        It s much but do the job. I m 2 weeks after from pct and i feel better than before cycle...or i feel like i m on cycle. I really feel my natural test back...having woods every morning...feel horny all the time...f..k 2 times per day...3 if i want.
                        The strenght...i lose between 5 to 10 percent..go back from 92.5kg to 89...gain some fat but muscles are big..realy big.
                        If i listen to the electronic complex.scale i gain 10 kg of muscle in this cycle...for real i belive is 4 to 6 kg...but is good quality mass.
                        Can not focus on diat....can not turn on the fat heat force. I can focus on train on cardio...but not diat...and i really need to get back o

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                        • bufbiker

                          #72
                          Why can't you dial I'm your diet Emil? You traveling?

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                          • Emil
                            Vet
                            • Oct 2016
                            • 146

                            #73
                            No Buff...i have no excuses....my wife cook great...and i go out many times...and i train so much that make me hunger.
                            But i promise..from monday i get back on track...counting calories..carbs...lot of cardio and so on.
                            I get compliments every day (how big i look) at work..at gym..
                            I i feel great...the strenght is here..the mood ..no the moooodd is up.up.up.. just the abs...are hardly seen...

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                            • Emil
                              Vet
                              • Oct 2016
                              • 146

                              #74
                              Stabilze everything. Now i m in Dubai after.8 days in Maldive. Eat like a pig train a little but stayed arrownd 90kg. The sex drive is again skyroket the cardio is on the top and the strenght is 90% of what it was. Strange somehow i feel my test is better than he was nefore cycle and deffenetty better than was 10 years ago. And i can not find the explenation...

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                              • bufbiker

                                #75
                                I've been off since February 21st, and I still feel like my test levels are higher than normal. I'll find out friday. Have annual Dr appointment and did blood work last Friday 4/28. It will be interesting to see the results.

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