Post workout "window" pfffttttt

[Dawgpound_Hank]

When I was my strongest, and natty to boot, was between 1988 and 1998. Nobody ever even heard of a "window" back then. And yet I am one of the sheep that have fell victim to the billion dollar supplement industry and the miracle "window". I bring all this up bcoz I am out of whey, and don't feel like driving by GNC due to time restraints. So as I was a little disappointed not having my post w.o shake, I got thinking you dumbass wtf, how many years did you make your best gains when having no p.w shake, but merely going home from the gym and eating some steak & potato or rice & chicken duh.

OK rant over.

[b52]

It's bs. I have my pwo shake for added calories on workout days and it's easier to substitute that in and not have to make another meal. Saves me on food a little. Go to costco if you have one near you. You can get 6 lbs of on whey for 40 bucks.

[Darkness]

Whey is ghey

[Roughrydr]

I dont use any supplements. And I've never had a problem either gaining or losing by manipulating my diet, increasing or decreasing frequency of meals. Adjusting carb intake, etc. My feeling from my own experience is that you are better off getting all.of your nutrition from food rather than supplements.

[b52]

I dont use any supplements. And I've never had a problem either gaining or losing by manipulating my diet, increasing or decreasing frequency of meals. Adjusting carb intake, etc. My feeling from my own experience is that you are better off getting all.of your nutrition from food rather than supplements.

This is true, whole foods are always better, but realistically for me a shake is more logical post workout. I'm already a slave to the kitchen, it's nice to have a couple hours. Either way, it's cheap. It saves on the food bill a little, and it helps me get the extra protein calories in, that way I'm usually a little over my necessary protein intake for the day.

[Glycomann]

It's about taking advantage of the best periods to take in nutrition. i.e. not becoming a fat fuck. Feeding at the right times. It takes disciple, measuring things out, careful observation and adjustment or you will lose the effect in the noise.

[Jester3378]

The anabolic window for protein consumption is much larger than we previously thought. We spent much of the 90s/00s under the impression that it was an hour but in reality the “window” is more like a barn door. That said, I have become a big proponent of the intra feeding of carbs and EAAs to faster shuttle nutrients to the muscles (I also throw creatine, extra leucine, and taurine in). Helps a lot with recovery.

[b52]

The anabolic window for protein consumption is much larger than we previously thought. We spent much of the 90s/00s under the impression that it was an hour but in reality the “window” is more like a barn door. That said, I have become a big proponent of the intra feeding of carbs and EAAs to faster shuttle nutrients to the muscles (I also throw creatine, extra leucine, and taurine in). Helps a lot with recovery.

Funny you said that. My wife has a body building book from the 90's and it claims that you need to eat every 3 hours to keep your body anabolic and if you miss your timing or a meal your body will go catabolic lol. Your digestion can't even keep up with that. The meal you ate 5 hours ago is still working for you. You're not magically gonna start breaking down muscle for energy if your timing is over 3 hours. It's just not true. I know plenty of guys that eat 4 meals a day. I eat 6 including a snack so I can lighten the portions up. It does help your metabolism eating more frequently but it's not gonna speed it up so good unless it's combined with cardio.

[Dakota]

There are more myths than facts in BBing. I bought Joe Weider a yacht in the 80s with all the bullshit I ingested. Yet my best gains came years later when I was a broke dick MFer that couldn't afford supps and just had to eat the best I could. When I was in my late 30s I got huge with very little suppliments and prescript gear. NOTHING make you grow like a Dr. that will let you write your own scripts......

[01dragonslayer]

While I do believe that post workout nutrition is extremely important I don't necessarily believe it needs to be fueled by supplemental whey and/or waxy maize. Protein and carbs are essential for muscle growth.

[Rot-Iron66]

After 40 years of doing this, there is way more fiction out there, than fact. Of course w/ internet's inception, it took off even more...

[liftsiron]

The anabolic window for protein consumption is much larger than we previously thought. We spent much of the 90s/00s under the impression that it was an hour but in reality the “window” is more like a barn door. That said, I have become a big proponent of the intra feeding of carbs and EAAs to faster shuttle nutrients to the muscles (I also throw creatine, extra leucine, and taurine in). Helps a lot with recovery.

You covered everything and a bit more than what I was going to say. It's also a myth that you can only metabolize 30-50 grams of protein at one time, it's much,much more how much is dependent on the particular individual.

[HDH]

Whenever I think about post workout nutrition and if it's really necessary I think about exogenous insulin timing. Pre and post seem to be the standard for bodybuilding and max growth.

If we take the insulin away wouldn't it still be best for the nutrition timed pre or post since the slin is just a booster?

I have used powdered gatorade mixed with vanilla protein during my workout so the sugar pushes the protein and carbs, a dulled down version of exogenous slin but the same idea of eating donuts to push post workout nutrition while adding protein.

[G21]

There are more myths than facts in BBing. I bought Joe Weider a yacht in the 80s with all the bullshit I ingested. Yet my best gains came years later when I was a broke dick MFer that couldn't afford supps and just had to eat the best I could. When I was in my late 30s I got huge with very little suppliments and prescript gear. NOTHING make you grow like a Dr. that will let you write your own scripts......

Aint that the truth! My doc was like that (also a friend) strayed away from it for a period of years, and now seemingly coming back around, fingers crossed.

I have a PWO after legs and back mostly because i thrash the hell out of them and want some extra calories. Other than that, its whole food for me and i manipulate the macros depending of goals.

[USNCTT]

The window is more like a barn door. If you get some kind of nutrition in you within 1-3 hrs of training you should be good.