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03-11-2005, 03:34 PM | #1 |
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Anavar 101
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Everything you need to know about Anavar Note: BSD did not write this article but was unable to find out who did. I thought it was a very good read. MYTHS Myth #1 - Anavar will not suppress the HPTA. False. Anavar, used in adequate dosages, will shut you down. To what degree you experience side effects of suppression (loss of libido, lethargy) is entirely dependent upon the individual and the dosages used. Myth #2 - Var is a weak anabolic, and is not effective unless stacked with a more androgenic compound. This could not be further from the truth. At dosages of 40mg a day and higher, anavar is incredibly effective at adding water free LBM. At around day 6-7, increased vascularity should become apparent (assuming your oxandrolone is legitimate in its dosing), and strength gains should start appearing around day 14. If used during a clean bulk, gains of 10-20 pounds are possible. If cutting, you will maintain weight, or even put on 5-10 pounds (depending on the rate of fat loss/severity of diet). You will keep all of your gains with proper PCT. Myth #3 - Anavar will not require any type of PCT. This is one ive never understood. It's a pretty commonly known fact now that var is a suppressive compound. So why is it that some individuals still refuse to make a small investment in some clomid/nolva....this is your testicular function we're talking about. That said, PCT required for var is not as "heavy" as PCT for, say, a test/eq cycle. 15-20 days @ 50mg clomid should be sufficient. LIBIDO The only real issue of concern that i have found when running anavar alone is slight libido suppression. Anavar is suppressive enough to where you WILL feel a difference in your sex drive (and not for the better ) when using 40+mg a day. There are three options to counteract this. #1 - Tribulus + Avena Sativa - Trib at 4-7g a day and Avena Sativa at 3-4g a day tend to help prevent any loss in performance or ability to get it up. However, using effective dosages is going to end up being as or more expensive than options 2 or 3...but its your call. #2 - Proviron - If hairloss is an issue in your choice to use anavar, then you may want to avoid this one. But 25mg ED proviron, starting after week 2, will keep you rock hard. And it will help to harden up your muscles too . #3 - Maintenance Test Dosage - Finally, you could choose to use testosterone to keep your willy in shape. At a dosage of around 200mg, split bi weekly, everything should keep running smoothly. Also, this will contribute to your gains much moreso than than options 1 or 2. I would keep nolva onhand on the off chance that you are severely gyno prone. Bloating should not be an issue at this dosage. BENEFITS Anavar is a badass drug. This is why. #1 - Vascularity Oxandrolone will make you veiny as all hell. And quickly. Look out for brand new bulging forearms veins by around day 6. If you are following a cutting regimen, expect new spider webs in your chest, shoulders and quads by around day 21. #2 - Pumps When on var, the pumps are constant. Bored sitting in class/at work? Do some unweighted calf raises. After about three minutes, your calves will be ready to pop. Youll be doing something like drinking a cup of water, and after a minute of holding it, your bi will be completely full and pumped. You may have to cut some sets short in the gym due to the painful pumpage. #3 - Strength Even when cutting, you can expect new strength gains every workout after about day 14-21. #4 - Fat Loss Anavar has been shown to contribute to accelerated fat loss in both subcutaneous and visceral fat, concentrated effects in the abdomen and thigh area. And if youve used the drug, you can attest to this...if you cant sport the 6-8 pack look on var, its not gonna happen . CYCLE Anavar should be run @ at least 40mg a day to see all of the benefits it offers. Dosages upwards of 80mg have been shown to exhibit diminishing returns. Also, i cant imagine the intensity of the pumps at that kind of dosage. Cycle #1 Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8 Tribulus 5-8g ED Weeks 1-12 Avena Sativa 2-4g ED Weeks 1-12 Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11 Cycle #2 Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8 Proviron 25mg ED Weeks 3-8 Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11 Cycle #3 Anavar 40-50mg ED Weeks 1-8 Test Prop 50mg EOD Weeks 1-8 Clomid 50mg ED Weeks 9-11 If bulking, Test Enanthate could be substituted for prop, and 100mg could be injected every 3-4 days...however, this could cause more bloating, and complicate PCT timing. LIVER PROTECTION Anavar is a 17 Alpha Alkylated steroid, and is toxic. It has been shown to be less toxic than other orals, and is even used as liver treatment for recovering alcoholics. Still, i would limit my time using it to 8 weeks, 10 at the most. It would be beneficial to you liver to use several different OTC supplements during, and perhaps after your cycle. A few preventive measures never hurt anyone . 1 - Milk Thistle The classic liver protectant herb.supposedly works by blocking the entrance of harmful substances to liver cells, and hastening their expulsion. Make sure there is a high standardization of Silymarin 2 - R ALA A powerful antioxidant 3 - NAC Supports liver function and production of l-glutathione 4 - Vitamin C and E Antioxidants 5 - LOADS of water Helps to flush out your entire system LIPID PROTECTION Anavar isnt going to kill your cholesterol levels like some drugs (winny being one of the worst), but it may put your LDL/HDL profiles outside of the normal range. There are a few things that help, but as long as your not using 60+mg daily or running it for more than 10 weeks, i would just use flax... 1 - Flax Oil Consuming lots of omega fatty acids promotes overall health, as well as helping to keep your lipid profile from becoming too bad. 2 - Policosanol Used at 20mg daily to keep your HDL (good cholesterol) levels from crashing, and your LDL from becoming too high. 3 - Niacin Preferably the flush free variety. If you wish, niacin can be used at 1-2g ED for a short period post-cycle to normalize HDL levels. Do not use for more than 7-14 days, as liver toxicity can be an issue when using those dosages of niacin for long periods of tim
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03-13-2005, 11:12 PM | #2 |
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Nice post Bro - I love Var - it just costs so damn much LOL
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Anavar is a 17aa although unlike other 17aas the majority of anavar is matabolized outside of the liver therefore poses little to no threat to the liver. I would never advocate long term anavar cycles to others but personally have run anaver for a solid six months without a noticeable increase in liver values. My lipid levels including hdl's fell very low, my hdl to ldl ratio remained in an acceptable range though.
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Great Post! thanx for the info...
Red Yeast rice will decrease Cholesterol just as effecitvely as Zocor--clinically and laboratory proven! Its awesome stuff.. Ive seen as high as 300 total cholesterol drop to below 200 in one months time.. One patient had a total of 275 and did nothing else but take red yeast rice and it dropped to 135 in 2 months time..and his ratio HDL/LDL was great and also lowered hit total Lipids. I reccomend it to alot of my patients.. FYI another formula that works good for cholesterol is a famous Chinese formula called Fu Fang Shan Zha Jiang Zhi Pian. This is a formula of eight herbs that help lower lipid and cholesterol. The efective herb in there is Shen Shan Zha. Cost usually is $6-10 /month Another issue with liver toxicity, i see people post milke thistle, or sylimarian alot. This is great, but i think a more effective is Xiao Yao Wan-cost $6-8/ 3 weeks. Clinically the primary herb is Chai Hui and it really helps support the liver. It will also help with anger associated with increased test levels. This last herb is one of the most commonly reccomeded herbs in Chinese Medicnine. |
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This was written by Dflood @ AnabolicReview.... just FYI....
It's a good read for sure... |
03-30-2005, 10:58 PM | #6 |
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I have run Var cycles of 80mg ED for 12 weeks back in the day - when it was cheap - crazy strength gains
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It's INSANE, and it should indeed be ran at 12 weeks, just like any other cycle. With proper liver protection, it should not affect you in any really bad way for the 12 weeks you're running it.
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Good read! Best damn drug IMHO! Cost could be less but oh well could be worse. Pumps, fat loss, good strength, no water, good muscle density and the list goes on. Best pumps I've ever had next to drol. And best of all they taste like PEZ! well the BD ones do anyway! NTG
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Very good thread on Var. I love it!
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What dosage do you recommend for woman and for how long? Also what dosage if you stack it with Primo (acetate). What is a good cycle with these two? thanks
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primo a tabs or injects. Most women do well with between 10-20mgs var ed.
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great read!
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Good info..........
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