PCT for tren

[mrhtbd]

Yeah, I know, look it up, but I was hoping someone could just extend a link.
What PCT protocol is recommended for 300mg/tren/week?

Thanks

[liftsiron]

If it were me!

14 days clomid at 100mgs plus 14 days nolva at 40mgs
followed by 2-3 weeks of clomid at 50mgs and nolva at 20mgs. Don't run your pct to short of a time.

[incrediblehawk]

i dont do any. what you trying to normalize?

[Darkness]

I would do what lifts said, unless you are like me and the clomid at that dose makes you feel menstrual. Little me would probably just do:

Clomid 50mg ED weeks 1-4
Nolva 20mg ED weeks 3 - 6.

But like I said if I tolerated the shit better I would use more.

But then again I am already cruising to immortality (A Glycomann quotable quote borrowed)

[mrhtbd]

don't have clomid and don't want anything sent at this stage.
Nolva, yes.

[Darkness]

don't have clomid and don't want anything sent at this stage.
Nolva, yes.

The problem with Nolva and 19nors is that sometimes and oftentimes the nolva will upregulate the PR receptors in breast tissue, and if you have any prolactin hormone floating around in you at all from the tren, you can get an instant flare of gyno. Personally I would not get nolva anywhere near the tren until it clears the system and them some. That's part of the reasoning behind the staggered Clomid/Nolva dosing, but not all of it. Surely you can get a research chem sent to somewhere. I will plug the ERL dude, he is good, fast, and cheap.

[mrhtbd]

What specific research chem?
Sorry, a little thick-headed.
By the way, I take 1mg arimidex/day.
I have a script for it.
Also, just a little hCG left, about 5cc's.
Oh, and I think "normalizing" anything is out of the question.
I want my test at 100, then I'll get the blood test and get hrt.

[Darkness]

What specific research chem?
Sorry, a little thick-headed.
By the way, I take 1mg arimidex/day.
I have a script for it.
Also, just a little hCG left, about 5cc's.
Oh, and I think "normalizing" anything is out of the question.
I want my test at 100, then I'll get the blood test and get hrt.

If you plan on going on HRT, I have a suggestion for you: With all this shit going on in your life, and the way you think about and react to it, with my reasoning that you plan to HRT anyway, I suggest that you put off the "going completely off AAS" until later, when you are more stable and have you head right and not so many changes going on. What I would do is get some test E and use 250mg EW of that shit starting immedaitely after you stop the tren. Just cruise on that for a while. Then later, when your're not in the middle a shit storm, go off that, get your levels measured and deemed pathetically low, and get a script for test. Forget about PCT. Because if you want to measure 100 ng/DL total test, you dont want PCT to fuck that u and raise your levels right?

And I have to ask.... why 1mg adex ED ?!?!?! With that little bit of test? No wonder you need a cialis script. Most people could get by on .25mg EOD running 100mg test prop EOD, if any at all. I would not use a mg of adex ED unless I was running 2 or 3 grams of test EW.

[mrhtbd]

My nipples are huge, but when using the adex, just the tips stay like arrow tips.

[Darkness]

My nipples are huge, but when using the adex, just the tips stay like arrow tips.

I understand. But you just want to reduce the estro not drive it into the ground.

[mrhtbd]

Should I cut them in half and take EOD, or just can them altogether?

[Darkness]

Should I cut them in half and take EOD, or just can them altogether?

I dont know. I would maybe start at .5mg EOD.

[bufbiker]

I don't use nolva with tren, only clomid, a prolactin agonist like cabergaline and some ai like aromasin.

[007]

If it were me!

14 days clomid at 100mgs plus 14 days nolva at 40mgs
followed by 2-3 weeks of clomid at 50mgs and nolva at 20mgs. Don't run your pct to short of a time.

Good advice I got to agree.

[Glycomann]

PCT really starts at the beginning of the cycle. Meaning, you shoukd use 250-500 iu of hCG every 3 days thorughout the cycle. then two weeks after your last shot 50 mg of Clomid a day for 4 weeks. Two weeks into the clomid start 20 mg/d nolvadex and continue the nolvadex for 3-4 weeks. That's about as extensive a PCT as I have ever done. I get away with just clomid for 3-4 weeks and by week 10 I'm in hte 500s. By week 16 I'm in the 600s ng/dL.

but to tell you the truth, I think going off and on over the years has been a waste in some respects. I'm not coming off anymore. In one's 50s it is diminishing returns. Going off.. going through recovery for a fen months.. and then ramping things up again. I think it's more taxing on the body than just staying on and dropping to a TRT dose periodically for 2-3 months. I will still use hCG and do Clomid bursts every few months just in case I ahve to come off some day and that way I will still be able to recover. But recover to what? A man in his 50s.