Anti Estrogens...........

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  • OldMan
    Vet
    • Jul 2014
    • 10

    Anti Estrogens...........

    When younger(52-58) I occasionaly took tamoxifen when ever I bumped my trt to 250 wk for a couple wks...

    Now at 62 and my normal 100 mg a week. I still ?feel? estrogen rich having got out of shape...SUKS... IS it just being fat or is estrogen a problem as we age?

    Am I imagining?
  • ozzy69
    Assistant Admin
    • Jun 2011
    • 4820

    #2
    Probably a little of both....his heavy are you? I know when I bulk I blame the estrogen in me for things instead of stop shoveling ice cream in my mouth

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    • OldMan
      Vet
      • Jul 2014
      • 10

      #3
      hmmmmm the culprit wouldn't be HagenDas Gelato would it.? Fattened my azz up as did Beer and Pizza.. Well a mans gotta cope with Father passing in some way......

      Boys ...STAYIN in shape is a whole lot easier than getting IN SHAPE....

      at 58 I was a LeanHard 185, 6ft I could DeadLift 275 30 times rest then 25 rest than 20 rest then 15. Never to failure. took 3 years to get there. 25 pullups a breeze. Now at 222.. 11(today) pullups are ripping my hands off my wrists...,, Afraid of a 135 deadlift... sigh. But 3 months ago 4 pullups.
      Last edited by OldMan; 09-02-2015, 02:21 PM.

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      • liftsiron
        Administrator
        • Nov 2003
        • 18443

        #4
        If your test use is low to moderate, you may want to try a little arimidex or a small dose of aromsin eod.
        ADMIN/OWNER@Peak-Muscle

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        • OldMan
          Vet
          • Jul 2014
          • 10

          #5
          I will

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          • gotclen
            Vet
            • Nov 2011
            • 17

            #6
            So Older Gentelman how are you feeling at this point? It has been about 2 months. A guy could have dropped 15 pounds or so by now. Slow and easy.
            My suggestion in get yourself back under 200#. Just make 199# as your goal and hold it there. Take 6 months if need be. For you those good old days were not 15 or 20 years ago. They were 3 or 4.

            Bump that test to 200 week. Clean up the meal plan. Get back into a positive routine. I'm sure your father was proud of you when you were kickin butt and taking names at 58.

            Slow and steady. If you need 10mg Nolvadex. That won't hurt you and help keep you a little bit dry. Or maybe us proviron or aromasin.

            It is worth the effort to get back to that better health. None of us can be as good as we were 5 years ago. Talking about 50 plus guys. What we can be is one hell of a lot better then 90% of our peers.

            Hope you see this .
            Good luck,
            Gc


            Originally posted by OldMan
            I will

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            • OldMan
              Vet
              • Jul 2014
              • 10

              #7
              Originally posted by liftsiron
              If your test use is low to moderate, you may want to try a little arimidex or a small dose of aromsin eod.
              fixin to up test a bit and a little one of the above.

              What push's up libido?

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              • liftsiron
                Administrator
                • Nov 2003
                • 18443

                #8
                Originally posted by OldMan
                fixin to up test a bit and a little one of the above.

                What push's up libido?
                Proviron!!!!!
                ADMIN/OWNER@Peak-Muscle

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                • Starman
                  Vet
                  • Sep 2013
                  • 115

                  #9
                  I would also say both fat and age also agree with all of the above , we all alsso change our chemistry. I have had the best luck mixing base test with 10 % Primo.
                  MESSAGE TO YOUNGER SELF : GET THE MOTORCYCLE DON'T WORRY ABOUT THE HELMET.
                  YOU WILL UNDERSTAND LATER!

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                  • Glycomann

                    #10
                    1. Men tend to get more estrogenic as we age.
                    2. SHBG tends to rise as we age.
                    3. Long term shutdown can impact our feeling of well being as we progress in TRT.
                    4. Life tends to get more boring, uneventful and full of demands as we age.

                    Best thing might be to get some bloodwork done. I use privatemd. My doc, he is great but he messes up which tests to run sometimes. On average if your estrogen is 35 or so or higher it might be messing up your libido and making yo feel the way you describe.

                    AIs are kind of a crap shoot especially if you have a lot of old injuries. Personally, i get joint pain pretty quickly if I over do it. Sometimes a better approach can be to use a little masteron or Primobolan. I don't know for sure it they inhubit estrogen formation but it feels like I am knocking down estrogen and I get drier looking and sex drive improves. Masteron and Proviron work nicely. Primo less so but still does something positive.

                    A new love interest helps a lot with libido even if you have to use Cialis at first. A new exciting woman can be the best (or worst .. ie drama) change. Women are incredible.. Being with the right one is like turning the lights back on after a storm knocked them out.

                    Porn, I know the above was arguing for more romantic side of life and this might seem like the opposite. The main thing is porn can put images back in your head that drive your libido. sometimes as we age the images kind of slide away. Putting some back into the memory bank even if they are not your real life memories can help restore interest in sex and in pursuit of women.

                    Do something alpha. Doing alpha type activities builds an immediate aura and short term memory of confidence. Confidence and conquest makes us, as men, happier and healthier. Alpha doesn't have to be running out and play quarterback in an over 40 league. It can just be reading up in some subject and leading a conversation in that subject when it comes up in a mixed group. Of course, if you are an ex-martial artist going back down to the dojo and dominating or holding your own is great as well.

                    It's not always a drug that is needed. Sometimes it's the mindset. WE all get into a slump now and then. For me sitting in the house with my wife pretending to like her shows puts me into a depression. But if I hit the gym a little more, hit the dojo some, and go out once a week with friends and shoot the shit and maybe flirt with some pretty women I feel a whole lot better.

                    My 2 cents,

                    G

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