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  • liftsiron
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    • Nov 2003
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    The Truth About GMOs

    The Truth About GMOs
    Are Genetically Modified Foods Bad For You?
    by TC | 09/02/15

    Dietary Myth Busting

    Here's what you need to know...

    Genetic modification of foods has raised the output of several crops by 20 to 30 percent.
    GM foods could produce higher yields, grow in ordinarily intemperate climates, and require less water, fertilizer, and pesticides to grow.
    Much of the world shuns GM foods, even though the American Medical Association and the National Academy of Science are both firmly in GMO's corner.
    The European Commission has funded 130 research studies on GM foods, carried out by more than 500 independent teams, and none found any unique risks.
    The main study used to point out the dangers of GM foods used rats that develop cancers very easily all on their own.
    Perhaps the answer is to continue distribution of GM foods while maintaining or even stepping up safety testing on new GM crops.

    The "Golden Rice" Cure

    Every year, about a million people die from vitamin A deficiency. Lack of vitamin A also causes anywhere from half a million to almost three million cases of irreversible blindness in children every year.

    However, locked away in a warehouse somewhere is a type of rice that could render those statistics obsolete. The rice is known as golden rice. While ordinary rice hardly contains any vitamin A at all, golden rice contains more vitamin A than spinach.

    The reason golden rice is under lock and key is because it's a genetically modified (GM) food, and many people fear GM foods as much as they fear terrorists or cancer.
    UCLA Prof – "We're back to being ignorant."

    Plant biologist Robert Goldberg of UCLA, speaking in Scientific American, complained bitterly about the GM food controversy.

    "Frankenstein monsters. Things crawling out of the lab. This is the most depressing thing I've every dealt with. Today, we're facing the same objections we faced 40 years ago.

    "In spite of hundreds of millions of genetic experiments involving every type of organism on earth, and people eating billions of meals without a problem, we're back to being ignorant."

    Is Goldberg right? Is the majority of the U.S. public, in fact the majority of the world, vilifying GM foods for no reason?

    If the US Food and Drug Administration's estimates are correct, the world will have to produce about 70% more food just to keep up, as population growth and maybe climate change will make growing foods more challenging.

    GM foods could produce higher yields, grow in ordinarily intemperate climates, and require less water, fertilizer, and pesticides to grow.

    Regardless, much of the world shuns GM foods.

    Here are the pros and cons:
    The Pros – Are They Safe?

    Some 60 years ago, scientists began altering the genomes of certain crops by using either chemicals or radiation to scramble their genetic code. These mutant strains of wheat, rice, peanuts, and peas became agricultural staples and no one objected. More importantly, no one was reported to have gotten sick from them.

    Back then, radiation and chemicals altered large sections of genetic material. Whereas, today's modern GM usually only involves the introduction or alteration of a single gene from another plant species, a bacterium, a virus, or even an animal.

    According to scientists, the latter approach is much less likely to create any surprises, i.e., "Frankenfoods." And, if a problem did occur, they'd know exactly which gene caused it so they could get rid of it.

    Likewise, viruses have been introducing their DNA into plants, as well as us, as long as we've been around, so it's nothing new. Similarly, plant species have been crossbreeding naturally since the first two plants tentatively stuck their stamens out into the world.

    While many fears of GM foods in general are largely undefined by detractors, one fear does predominate – that the altered DNA of a plant could contaminate our own DNA. While that may be a great premise for a science fiction movie, it doesn't work that way in real life. Genetic material doesn't survive the digestive tract and make it into our cells.

    The American Association for the Advancement of Science, the American Medical Association, and the National Academy of Science are all firmly in GM's corner. The US Food and Drug Administration, a bunch of scientific sticklers if there ever was one, has examined the research and found GM foods to be safe.

    Likewise, the European Commission has funded 130 research studies on GM foods, carried out by more than 500 independent teams, and none found any unique risks.

    Lastly, as Dr. Goldberg explained, people have consumed billions of GM meals over the last few decades without any reported problems.
    The Cons – Are GM foods really harmful?

    There have been a few studies that concluded that GM foods are dangerous. However, two of the most commonly cited ones have been pretty much ripped up by the scientific community.

    The first one, conducted by plant biochemist Arpad Pusztai of the Rowett Institute of Scotland in 1998, found that rats fed a certain type of GM potato experienced stunted growth and immunological problems.

    It was fairly compelling, until scientists pointed out that the potato used in the study wasn't meant for human consumption; in fact, it was supposed to be toxic by design.

    The second one, more recent and much scarier, was published in 2012 by Gilles-Eric Seralini at the University of Caen Lower Normandy in France. Seralini fed a commonly grown GM corn to rats and they contracted cancer at an alarmingly high rate.

    The study results blazed through the Internet, reaffirming fears of GM foods. The trouble was that Seralini used a type of rat in his research that develops tumors really easily. In fact, 80% of the rats develop tumors just by existing.

    Furthermore, critics pointed out that Seralini didn't use enough rats, didn't bother to include proper controls, and didn't report some of the details of the experiments. The European Food Safety Authority, among others, soundly dismissed his findings.
    To Eat GM Foods or Not to Eat GM Foods?

    David H. Freeman, author of the Scientific American article where some of the info here was derived, thinks there's perhaps middle ground to be found in the debate. He suggests "continuing distribution of GM foods while maintaining or even stepping up safety testing on new GM crops."

    He also gives a nod to the GM naysayers by pointing out that while most scientists assume GM plants are safety-tested in much the same way new drugs are, they aren't.

    Most consumers see universal labeling of GM as a positive step forward, but you can see why food manufacturers are reluctant to do so. With so much bad publicity, much of it unfounded, how are they going to get a fair shake from consumers?

    Sure, labeling gives consumers a choice, but if their choice is based on what amounts to not much more than superstition, manufacturers are surely going to get the short end of the GM stick.

    Of course, some food companies might be profiting from our fears of GM foods. Consider Chipotle, who recently decided to go "No GMO." If two thirds of the population thinks GMO is bad, then no GMO is a smart, moneymaking decision.

    Unfortunately, it's a decision that hurts science and the need for increased food production in the future.
    References

    Entine, Jon, "The Debate About GMO Safety is Over, Thanks to a New Trillion-Meal Study," Forbes, 9/17/2014.
    Freedman, David H., "The Truth About Genetically Modified Foods," Scientific American, August 20th, 2013.
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  • liftsiron
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    • Nov 2003
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    #2
    Personally I would have no worry about eating GMO food everyday.
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    • Glycomann

      #3
      The danger that no one seems to talk about. I forget the number but I think the nearly all grain crops and textile crops are GMO. I think the total number of species is in the 30s. That means that genetic diversity is very low. The argument for high genetic diversity is that in the face of disease of otherwise poor natural conditions there will be some segment of the individual strains that will survive and hence prevent loss of the species. In a world where say Monsanto or whomever has limited say the number of corn crops to 3-4 strains then the corn population may not have the genetic diversity to survive some set of environmental challenges such as some blight or blights.

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      • MindlessWork
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        • Aug 2011
        • 1187

        #4
        Originally posted by Glycomann
        The danger that no one seems to talk about. I forget the number but I think the nearly all grain crops and textile crops are GMO. I think the total number of species is in the 30s. That means that genetic diversity is very low. The argument for high genetic diversity is that in the face of disease of otherwise poor natural conditions there will be some segment of the individual strains that will survive and hence prevent loss of the species. In a world where say Monsanto or whomever has limited say the number of corn crops to 3-4 strains then the corn population may not have the genetic diversity to survive some set of environmental challenges such as some blight or blights.
        Good post and that surely does make sense. GMO's put our food supply at risk due to the reduced biodiversity...if a disease that's hitherto unknown infects such crops then there's a great chance the supply gets wiped out.
        “You take the blue pill — the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill — you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.” - Morpheus (from the Matrix)

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        • willsgotrythm
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          • Jul 2012
          • 459

          #5
          I wonder what they are hiding. Why wouldn't they want you to know that you are consuming GMO foods if they are so good? Why does Monsanto spend millions of dollars to fight GMO labeling? Why are they outlawed in so many other countries? I don't trust the FDA at all especially when their loyalties lie with huge corporations just like Monsanto. If the FDA is so good at policing our food why did they allow this: http://foodbabe.com/subway/

          At this point in time, I too am held hostage by my dependence on store bought food. I'm not sure if it is possible to be TOTALLY free of it but I would rather be able to grow my own food. Its much safer in my opinion.

          The arguments about larger food production for the future are unfounded in my opinion, just because of the fact that farmers were PAID by the US government to NOT grow wheat and other crops and now guess what, we are out!!

          The "fair shake" that this author talks about GMO's not getting is BS too in my opinion. There have been many scientist's who have quit their jobs when they figured out what GMO's do to humans, but Monsanto for one wanted to press on with production and put the GMO's on the market anyway. It's all about money to them, they could really give two shits if it messed people up.
          Last edited by willsgotrythm; 09-07-2015, 09:25 PM.

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          • MindlessWork
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            • Aug 2011
            • 1187

            #6
            All I see is companies like Monsanto are doing this to control the food supply thus $$$$. They really don't give two hoots about the environment to boot.
            “You take the blue pill — the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill — you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.” - Morpheus (from the Matrix)

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            • liftsiron
              Administrator
              • Nov 2003
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              #7
              Man has been eating GMO food for 2000 years now, beef, pork, chicken, milk, etc. Only it was referred to
              as selective breeding, same with grains. Cross pollination to form a better strain of corn etc.
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              • Thate
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                • Mar 2007
                • 3425

                #8
                in reference to GMO's for 2000 years.....

                a women selecting a big strong male to produce an athletic offspring is not the same as giving your child steroids.

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                • liftsiron
                  Administrator
                  • Nov 2003
                  • 18444

                  #9
                  Originally posted by Thate
                  in reference to GMO's for 2000 years.....

                  a women selecting a big strong male to produce an athletic offspring is not the same as giving your child steroids.
                  What does that have to do with this thread? GMO's has nothing to do with giving cattle steroids and hgh. That's the problem with people against eating GMO produced food, they haven't clue as to wtf their talking about.
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                  • Thate
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                    • Mar 2007
                    • 3425

                    #10
                    genetically modifying is just a wee bit more than cross pollinating, more like cross pollination on steroids imo

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                    • liftsiron
                      Administrator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 18444

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Thate
                      genetically modifying is just a wee bit more than cross pollinating, more like cross pollination on steroids imo
                      It's far more in depth and done in a lab, but the results are the same,
                      generations sooner.
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                      • Jester
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                        • May 2004
                        • 650

                        #12
                        I don't have any problems with GMO's. I do have a problem with Monsanto and their shady business practices.

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                        • liftsiron
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                          • Nov 2003
                          • 18444

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Jester
                          I don't have any problems with GMO's. I do have a problem with Monsanto and their shady business practices.
                          I fully agree, same with the major pharmaceutical companies.
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                          • Glycomann

                            #14
                            Originally posted by liftsiron
                            Man has been eating GMO food for 2000 years now, beef, pork, chicken, milk, etc. Only it was referred to
                            as selective breeding, same with grains. Cross pollination to form a better strain of corn etc.
                            As far as grain crops you still had cross pollination through natural processes, which added genetic diversity even under conditions of selective breeding. Monsanto actually relies on this to remove non-conformist farmers from the market.

                            My point is we don't know what's around the next bend. Nature could through a high speed breaking ball that man hasn't prepared for. Nature through her billions of years experience has prepared for this as best as she can. I just don't think it's possible to prepare as well as nature has. Genetic diversity is a force that drives survival as some segment of a species is genetically better prepared for a stress or many stresses over time.. as in millennia or longer. We don't even trust corporate to provide us safe drugs kids toys. I can't trust them with my food supply knowing how the government/lobbying process works.

                            I haven't looked at it for a long time but look at Monsanto's actions in Argentina and the soybean industry in the 90s. You will see Monsanto's strategy for elimination of genetic diversity and dominance of major global food crops at play.

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                            • MindlessWork
                              Moderator
                              • Aug 2011
                              • 1187

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Glycomann
                              As far as grain crops you still had cross pollination through natural processes, which added genetic diversity even under conditions of selective breeding. Monsanto actually relies on this to remove non-conformist farmers from the market.

                              My point is we don't know what's around the next bend. Nature could through a high speed breaking ball that man hasn't prepared for. Nature through her billions of years experience has prepared for this as best as she can. I just don't think it's possible to prepare as well as nature has. Genetic diversity is a force that drives survival as some segment of a species is genetically better prepared for a stress or many stresses over time.. as in millennia or longer. We don't even trust corporate to provide us safe drugs kids toys. I can't trust them with my food supply knowing how the government/lobbying process works.

                              I haven't looked at it for a long time but look at Monsanto's actions in Argentina and the soybean industry in the 90s. You will see Monsanto's strategy for elimination of genetic diversity and dominance of major global food crops at play.
                              Well said and there surely needs to be closer oversight over our food supply to ensure it will be SAFE.
                              “You take the blue pill — the story ends, you wake up in your bed and believe whatever you want to believe. You take the red pill — you stay in Wonderland, and I show you how deep the rabbit-hole goes.” - Morpheus (from the Matrix)

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