Morbidity and mortality among Bodybuildings/Power sport elite

**Glycomann** · 01-21-2014, 02:28 PM

sorted by disease

Wilfred Sylvester 2006 age 62 alzheimers
Dave Barno, 2006 age 35 anurism
Ray Mentzer 2001 age 47 Berger's
Marianna Komlos 2004 age 35 breast
Johnny Fuller 2006 age 62 cancer
Hans Ossner, 2006 age 64 cancer
Sonny Schmidt 2004 age 51 cancer
Roger Estep 2005 cancer, brain
Carlos Rodriguez 1991 age 48 cancer, stomach
Steve Courson 2005 crushed
Mike Martarazzo living 39 heart
Danny Padilla living heart
Arnold Schwarzenegger living heart
Matt Duvall, 2013 age 40 heart
Casey Viator 2013 age 62, heart
Art Atwood 2011 age 38 heart
Greg Deferro 2007 age 53 heart
Dan Puckett 2007 age 22 heart
Rob Sager 2007 age 29 HEART
Eduardo Kawak 2006 age 47 heart
Russ Knipp 2006 age 63 heart
Anthony Clark 2005 age 39 heart
Norm Dabish, 2005 age 46, heart
Charles Durr 2005 age 44 heart
Eddie Guerrero, 2005 age 38 heart
Mannie Hamilton 2005 age 62 heart
John Ware 2005 Age 46 heart
Doug Young, 2005 age 61, heart
Don Youngblood 2005 age 51 heart
Robert Benavente 2004 age 30 heart
Claudia Bianchi 2004 age 34 heart
Trevor Smith 2004 age 33 heart
Ray Traylor 2004 age 41 heart
Derrick Whitsett 2004 age 38 heart
Luke Iams 2003 age 40's heart
lou barrie 2001 age 40 heart
Mike Mentzer 2001 age 49 heart
Curtis Leffler 1998 age 36 heart
Bj johns 1995 age 34 heart
Boyer Coe living heart/stroke
Ed Corney living heart/stroke
Paul Demayo 2005 age 38 heroin
Eric Otero 2006 age 37 infection
Don Long living kidney
Tom Prince living kidney
Flex Wheeler living kidney
Nasser Sonbatey 2013 age 47, Kidney
Luke Wood 2011 age 35 kidney
Scott Klein 2003 age 30 kidney
John Riggins 2005 age 33 kidneys
Ray McNeil 1995 age 29 killed
Ron Teufel 2002 age 45 liver
Andreas M�nzer 1996 age 31 liver/kidney
Joe Meeko 2009 age 48 Lyme
Don Youngblood 2005 age 51 massive
Mohammed Benaziza 1992 age 33 overdose
Hans Hopstaken 2002 age 45 pneumonia
Herb Glossbrenner, 2005 age 63, stoke
Fannie Barrios 2005 age 41 stroke
Shelley Beattie 2008 age 39 suicide
George Crawford 2006 age
Dave Moyer 2006 age
Rick Tuller 2006 age
Jason Keene 2006 age 32
Gordon Wong 2005 age
Joe Hornick 2005 age
Hannah Claire 2005 age
Phil Hile, 2005 age 39
Barbara Beasley 2005 age 49
Gary Cleveland 2004 age
Bob Bednarski 2004 age
Stuart Cameron 2004 age
Werner Selig, 2004 age 42
Mark Wallace 2004 age
John Carl 2004 age
Jeff Allen 2004 age
John Patrick O'shea 2004 age
P.G. Taylor 2004 age
Martin Cypher 2004 age
Dean Lotz 2004 age
Ursula Buckanes-Henry 2004 age
Don Crain 2004 age
Helmut Losch 2004 age

**Glycomann** · 01-21-2014, 02:53 PM

Of those reported causes

36/65 by heart disease ~ 55%
7/65 by kidney disease ~11%
4/65 by stroke ~7%
5/65 canceer ~ 8%

Average age at death ~43 years
US average average at death 78.6

2010 stats for United Sates Deaths
Heart disease 32.2%
Cancer 31.0%
Chronic lower respiratory diseases 7.4%
Stroke (cerebrovascular diseases) 6.9%
Accidents (unintentional injuries) 6.5%
Alzheimer's disease 4.5%
Diabetes 3.7%
Nephritis, nephrotic syndrome, and nephrosis 2.7%
Influenza and Pneumonia 2.7%
Intentional self-harm (suicide) 2.1%

**Glycomann** · 01-21-2014, 06:22 PM

Scand J Med Sci Sports. 2013 Sep 12. doi: 10.1111/sms.12122. [Epub ahead of print]
Increased mortality rate and suicide in Swedish former elite male athletes in power sports.
Lindqvist AS, Moberg T, Ehrnborg C, Eriksson BO, Fahlke C, Ros�n T.
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Abstract

Physical training has been shown to reduce mortality in normal subjects, and athletes have a healthier lifestyle after their active career as compared with normal subjects. Since the 1950s, the use of anabolic androgenic steroids (AAS) has been frequent, especially in power sports. The aim of the present study was to investigate mortality, including causes of death, in former Swedish male elite athletes, active 1960-1979, in wrestling, powerlifting, Olympic lifting, and the throwing events in track and field when the suspicion of former AAS use was high. Results indicate that, during the age period of 20-50 years, there was an excess mortality of around 45%. [B]However, when analyzing the total study period, the mortality was not increased. [/B]Mortality from suicide was increased 2-4 times among the former athletes during the period of 30-50 years of age compared with the general population of men. Mortality rate from malignancy was lower among the athletes. As the use of AAS was marked between 1960 and 1979 and was not doping-listed until 1975, it seems probable that the effect of AAS use might play a part in the observed increased mortality and suicide rate. The otherwise healthy lifestyle among the athletes might explain the low malignancy rates.

� 2013 John Wiley & Sons A/S. Published by John Wiley & Sons Ltd.
KEYWORDS:

AAS, anabolic androgenic steroids malignancy, elite athletes, mortality, power sports, suicide

PMID:
24033718
[PubMed - as supplied by publisher]

**willi** · 01-21-2014, 07:14 PM

Thank you G for putting this together.

**Glycomann** · 01-21-2014, 07:24 PM

No conclusions can be drawn really. These are names drawn from the media. They have been selected. Thre is no proper choice of populations for comparision. Still it is interesting to look at. A couple things can be said. All probably used a lot of PEDs for well over a decade. All died decades earlier than the average. It would be interesting to see a comparison of NPC card holders from 1981 - 1990 and compare that population to a proper age matched population. That would be interesting and probably telling. Why no one has done this? I don't know. Would require a bit of work and some cooperation of members and families.

**willi** · 01-21-2014, 09:26 PM

Read some posts at another "place"
All of us who are intelligent and have "sampled" know from our blood tests what a small amount of help does compared to...uh...more.
If I'm conservative my lipids are fine. If I get liberal....lipids go to hell.
Look how many heart deaths.
Thanks again. Its a good heads up.

**willi** · 01-21-2014, 09:33 PM

P.S. I miss Don Youngblood. He started older and I can relate to that. He was incredible. I followed his career. When he died I thought...What the hell happened?

**Glycomann** · 01-21-2014, 09:57 PM

It's too bad. I think as we play this game it becomes understood that it escalates. Now add in that there is a career associated with the look. One becomes trapped on a tread mill of excess. It shouldn't be a shock that some of the elite fall early. It's like jungle warfare in some sense. Some take the hit and then they are gone.

**willi** · 01-21-2014, 10:32 PM

Yes. But what we don't hear about are the not famous gym rats that fall before their time. That's us.

**Deacon** · 01-25-2014, 08:38 PM

I wonder how many used rec drugs regularly - especially pain killers - they can kill you quickly

**IBBAdmin** · 01-26-2014, 07:05 AM

1986 AAU American Vinny Conzo Died about 2 years ago from heart attack in georgia

**IBBAdmin** · 01-26-2014, 07:06 AM

put it this way, does anyone think that putting anything into your body that is not supposed to be there is good for your organs? NOT !!!!! Especially the stuff that's made in some 20 something year olds kitchen lol... we are all crazy

**Glycomann** · 01-26-2014, 10:48 AM

Originally posted by IBBAdmin

put it this way, does anyone think that putting anything into your body that is not supposed to be there is good for your organs? NOT !!!!! Especially the stuff that's made in some 20 something year olds kitchen lol... we are all crazy

Here are my probably somewhat reationalizing self guidelines:

Test dose = 1-2x top of normal range
primary anabolic = 2 - 2.5x top of normal range testosterone
peptide and or GH dependant IGF-1 = up to late adolescent levels ~ 400 ng/mL

So for me that is roughly:

Test = 200-300 mg/w mid range ester
example, Primo = 250-400 mg/w
GH = 1.5-2.5 iu
GHRP-2 = 200-400 mcg/w

These are baby doses compared to what people are using on these boards but here I am going from a very in shape 200 lbs coming back from Europe to 216 at a lower bodyfat in less than a month. Why the FUGG would I want to use more? People are fugging delusional. It's all about genetics, hard work, diet and rest. Add in a sprinkle of PEDs and it all goes better. Add in a lot of PEDs and feel like shit and perform like crap, huff and puff going up stairs, turn blue after a set of leg presses, low back pumps, rubber dick syndrome etc etc...

Use enough to get to 2x the top of normal level of hormones or to levels seen in peak growth years naturally. Add in about the same amount of a medicinal synthetic and that's all you need. The body is designed to handle that. A lot of guys get in the trap of being on long long time and have to use higher and higher doses as the body tries harder and harder to excrete these drugs and lower signaling. This leads to toxicity and decreased performance and to becoming riddled with side effects.

**Cabo Jo** · 01-26-2014, 11:14 AM

well lets hope I don't stroke out till my 70's,didn't start running gear until 41yrs old.

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