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Old 02-03-2019, 02:29 PM   #1
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Ketosis: A Reality Check

Ketosis: A Reality Check
The Pros and Cons of Keto Diets
by Paul Carter | 01/22/19


Oh Look, Yet Another Keto Article...

Yes, keto is hot right now. And if you're only paying attention to the surface-level information, you might believe that keto means gorging on bacon and ribeye while the fat melts off your body like magic.
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I assure you, that's not the case. So let's actually deal with the facts about where keto shines and where it falls short.
First, It's Not New

Ketogenic dieting has been around since at least the 1920's when doctors discovered that removing glucose as the primary fuel (via severe carbohydrate restriction and increased fat intake) forced the body to become "fat adapted." This resulted in a reduction or complete secession of seizures in those suffering with epilepsy.

Removing or greatly reducing carbs from your diet and increasing fat intake causes a metabolic shift in the body, forcing it to create a fuel source in the absence of glucose. Once the body is tapped out on glucose, the liver starts converting fatty acids into ketone bodies for energy, namely acetone, acetoacetate, and beta-hydroxybuyterate (BHB).

Once into ketosis – which can take anywhere from a few days to a week – the ketone body used primarily for fuel is BHB.

Because we're vain and self-absorbed, we figured out that with some manipulation this same diet could be used to lose fat because it naturally has a high degree of satiation associated with it. Who knew that eating a bunch of lard and bacon would curb hunger?

Vince Gironda used a similar approach to keto back in the 1950's. And in the 1980's and 90's, Dr. Mauro Dipasquale created the Anabolic Diet where you basically go keto all week to promote fat burning and increased hormonal output (that's the theory at least), then used the weekends to smash carbs to refuel depleted glycogen stores.

So, this isn't a fad, folks. It's not new.
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Keto and Body Composition

There's been some pretty solid research done on ketogenic diets versus other types of diets and how they fare at improving body composition, from both a muscle building and fat loss standpoint.

The good news for keto lovers is that keto does in fact do a slightly better job in the fat loss department, most likely due to the high degree of satiation associated with it. (You feel full on it, after a while.)

The JISSN meta-analysis that looked at the most popular diets in relation to body composition concluded that keto diets offer a slight edge in terms of fat loss when calories and protein were equated for, but only marginally so. (1) Still, every little bit helps.

The bad news for keto lovers is that when it comes to building muscle, keto falls flat on its face in comparison to diets that aren't overly carb restrictive.

To demonstrate this more clearly, a recent study looked at body composition changes in resistance-trained men in a caloric surplus using a ketogenic diet (compared to non-keto and a control group). The keto group lost fat but saw virtually ZERO gain in lean muscle tissue. (2)

Maybe the keto group actually didn't eat above maintenance level calories due to the high degree of satiation. However, even if a hypercaloric state was achieved weekly, you're still looking at a net gain of zero in terms of lean muscle mass. Turns out, you need carbs for accelerated muscle growth.

So you can't really build muscle on keto... or can you? There's something called a targeted ketogenic diet (TKD), where you spend a few weeks or even months getting your body very keto adapted, then use carbs in higher amounts during or post workout. That's when you're far more insulin sensitive and less likely to be kicked out of ketosis (it's all about the glut4 expression).

Due to the incredibly high degree of anal retentiveness on the internet, people are going to ask, "Well, how many carbs?" I can't tell you that. That's something you'd have to manipulate and test on yourself.

But I'd recommend starting at something to the tune of around 30-50 grams of carbs in the peri and post-workout window (combined carb intake here). If you're truly anal, measure your blood ketone levels before, during, and after this window to see what effect the carb intake is having on you. I know, trying stuff is hard.
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Keto and Performance

When it comes to keto and performance, the most common outcome is a dip in performance overall and then a return to baseline once the athlete is fat adapted.

It appears that once an athlete is truly fat adapted that he or she will see similar performance as they would when eating a traditional Western diet. This is especially true in endurance athletes, where fat adapted athletes tend to perform the same compared to those ingesting carbs. (3, 4)

Things change when power output is brought into the equation. Keto transitioning athletes often report a reduction in power output compared to those still running on glucose. (5, 6)

There's always the anecdotal caveat to any of these things, however. There are plenty of people who've seen performance improvements after they switch to a ketogenic diet. You could say that the fat loss is what boosted their performance. Well, maybe. The law of individuality tends to reign more often than not in the performance world.
Keto and Metabolic Diseases

This is where keto really shines and appears to give the greatest benefit compared to other types of diets. In the fight against diseases, increasing longevity, and improving overall health and wellness, keto stands out.

This shouldn't be surprising if you know that BHB has a strong anti-inflammatory effect in the body. (7) Virtually every disease known to man is linked to low-grade chronic inflammation.

But that's not the only factor. It's hypothesized that a disruption in glucose metabolism could be one of the main culprits in diseases like Parkinson's and Alzheimer's. With ketones being able to cross the blood-brain barrier, they can provide brain fuel during conditions when glucose can't be accessed.

With cancer, it's believed that glucose tends to feed cancer cells. Those cells are starved in a physiological environment rich in BHB. (8) Starve the fuel for cancer growth and you may improve your chances of kicking some cancer ass. That's the theory at least.

There's still a lot of research to be done to cement these ideas; however, there's enough evidence to support the notion that if you woke up tomorrow with any of the aforementioned issues, going keto wouldn't be a bad idea.
Stop Chasing Ketosis

Unless you're suffering from a metabolic disease, then the wrong way to approach keto is to actually chase ketosis. There's nothing overly magical from a fat loss or body composition standpoint from being in ketosis.

If you enjoy eating keto, and can sustain it, then it's a viable option to use for fat loss. But reducing body fat via an energy deficit is always going to be the main factor, regardless of what "style" of dieting you use – high carb, low carb, paleo, IIFYM, whatever.

It all boils down to more energy going out than you have coming in. The most important variable within all of these diets is your own ability to be consistent with them, and if they're helping you move towards your physique and performance goals.
Fat
Let's Summarize...

Keto has a very slight edge in terms of fat loss than most other named diets, most likely due to the high degree of satiation it provides.
Keto is a significantly worse option than diets that include carbs when it comes to building lean muscle.
A TKD approach might give you the best of both worlds where you go keto for a few months, then use carbs in the peri and post-workout window.
Performance wise, endurance athletes tend to measure up equally with glucose-fueled athletes once they're fat adapted. Once the need for power comes into play, the results can vary from individual to individual.
If you're suffering from any sort of metabolic disease, then keto is pretty much king. And from a health and longevity standpoint, it probably has some significant benefits compared to other diets. A reduction of inflammation and keeping insulin in check are two strong benefits.

Related:  Keto – You're Doing It Wrong
Related:  Should YOU Go Keto?
References

Aragon, Et al. (2017) International society of sports nutrition position stand: diets and body composition
Salvador Vargas, Et al. (2018) Efficacy of ketogenic diet on body composition during resistance training in trained men: a randomized controlled trial. doi.org/10.1186/s12970-018-0236-9
Stephen D Phinney, Ketogenic diets and physical performance (2004) doi: 10.1186/1743-7075-1-2
Paul Urbain, Et al Impact of a 6-week non-energy-restricted ketogenic diet on physical fitness, body composition and biochemical parameters in healthy adults (2017) doi: 10.1186/s12986-017-0175-5
Caryn Zinn, (2017) Ketogenic diet benefits body composition and well-being but not performance in a pilot case study of New Zealand endurance athletes. doi: 10.1186/s12970-017-0180-0
The Effects of a Ketogenic Diet on Exercise Metabolism and Physical Performance in Off-Road Cyclists, Adam Zajac, Et al. (2014) doi: 10.3390/nu6072493
Youm YH, Et. al The ketone metabolite β-hydroxybutyrate blocks NLRP3 inflammasome-mediated inflammatory disease. (2015) doi: 10.1038/nm.3804.
Caroline W Cohen, Et al. A Ketogenic Diet Reduces Central Obesity and Serum Insulin in Women with Ovarian or Endometrial Cancer (2018) doi.org/10.1093/jn/nxy119
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I had to follow a low carb diet for a few days before a scan and it was really tough for a carb addict like me but I'm looking into doing it all year. Thoughts?
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I had to follow a low carb diet for a few days before a scan and it was really tough for a carb addict like me but I'm looking into doing it all year. Thoughts?
Aren't you vegan? How is that gonna work? You mine as well start grazing. You're gonna wither away MG.
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I have not tried training for size at the same time as going keto but keto is very effective in lowering BF. Just stay away from all the BS recipes on the net that claim to be keto. Keto, muffins, pancakes, deserts etc. Just do a keto diet and you get very good results. The exception might be a desert called fat bombs. They reduce treat cravings and don't spoil your keto. I am disappointed to read that it is difficult to add muscle while in keto.

I will have to pay special attention post cycle as I try to lean back out via keto.
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Aren't you vegan? How is that gonna work? You mine as well start grazing. You're gonna wither away MG.
I don't see how it would be possible to approach anything near ketosis on a vegan diet.
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I don't see how it would be possible to approach anything near ketosis on a vegan diet.
Me neither but I thought you would be able to help me on this.
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Good read. I've did low carb before but never keto. When I read about it, I just kept thinking how the heck does a big guy like me get in enough cals without carbs? I mean you can only eat so many fish oil caps & tbspns of olive oil a day. So I usually shoot for around 250-300 g of protein a day. Don't really wanna go much higher due to age, kidney health. That's only 1000-1200 cals. I need around 3000 to maintain. HOW would I get in 1800-2000 cals ed from fat? I would guess pb, but that has carbs in it. Guess eat alot of red meat ed, which I really don't wanna do at my age either. ?
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Good read. I've did low carb before but never keto. When I read about it, I just kept thinking how the heck does a big guy like me get in enough cals without carbs? I mean you can only eat so many fish oil caps & tbspns of olive oil a day. So I usually shoot for around 250-300 g of protein a day. Don't really wanna go much higher due to age, kidney health. That's only 1000-1200 cals. I need around 3000 to maintain. HOW would I get in 1800-2000 cals ed from fat? I would guess pb, but that has carbs in it. Guess eat alot of red meat ed, which I really don't wanna do at my age either. ?
I tried it and it sucks. Flat all the time. Workouts suffer. It's so much easier just weighing everything when dropping fat.
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I tried it and it sucks. Flat all the time. Workouts suffer. It's so much easier just weighing everything when dropping fat.
How long did you stick with it B? I suffered through the first week and then a change comes on. That flat feeling goes away. The carb craving goes away and good energy returns.

A lot of top level athletes are using it and believe your performance is actually higher burning fat instead of carbs. I can't vouch for that but many promoters make that claim.
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How long did you stick with it B? I suffered through the first week and then a change comes on. That flat feeling goes away. The carb craving goes away and good energy returns.

A lot of top level athletes are using it and believe your performance is actually higher burning fat instead of carbs. I can't vouch for that but many promoters make that claim.
3 weeks with a bad attitude.
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I takes me about 3 weeks with a bad feeling in my stomach. I like it too after I get adapted. I've done it long enough now that I can tell what I dont like about carbs. I usually eat some carbs on the weekend. The wife and I go to the buffet or something like that. I try not to go too crazy on the bad stuff.

Basically the same holds true even with the keto diet. It's calories in VS calories out. I got myself down to 3 meals a day. The other thing for me though is, I did pretty much stop training before my shoulder surgery and I havent really gotten back yet. I went from about 225 or 230 down to about 212 or 215 in a few months and now I'm steady at around 205. I'm not even sure how many calories I'm getting right now.

Keto is definately not a mirical diet but it does help you lose fat. I still have a bit of a belly and I've seen other people who eat keto but are still fat....
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I takes me about 3 weeks with a bad feeling in my stomach. I like it too after I get adapted. I've done it long enough now that I can tell what I dont like about carbs. I usually eat some carbs on the weekend. The wife and I go to the buffet or something like that. I try not to go too crazy on the bad stuff.

Basically the same holds true even with the keto diet. It's calories in VS calories out. I got myself down to 3 meals a day. The other thing for me though is, I did pretty much stop training before my shoulder surgery and I havent really gotten back yet. I went from about 225 or 230 down to about 212 or 215 in a few months and now I'm steady at around 205. I'm not even sure how many calories I'm getting right now.

Keto is definately not a mirical diet but it does help you lose fat. I still have a bit of a belly and I've seen other people who eat keto but are still fat....

I am sure it is possible but my experience is you would have to work at it to get fat. Lots of protein maybe. You just don't get the hunger on keto that you do when you are taking in quick burning carbs. I was never hungry.

I lean towards a Keto-like diet anyway. My meals are usually simple steak, chicken or fish with a couple of different veggies for sides. Maybe cottage cheese. The only thing that changes for me is I like rice or potatoes when I am not keto and I sometimes miss that a little. However if you give me a pound of huge shrimp, grilled asparagus, and sliced tomatoes I am fine without the carbs.
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I'm just gonna say I think all you keto nuts are just that. Nuts! Just weigh your damn food lol. and eat lots of clen and dnp.
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