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Ive been on TrT for several years now and am really not getting anything out of it as in the past. I was thinking of running a pct and resting the body for a few months before a real cycle. I only have nolvadex on hand atm for pct. I was running 200mg test e at between 7-10 days. Im wondering if this is enough of should I try to get my hands on some hcg for a kick start? I dread doing this but its been a long time coming. Any feedback is appreciated.
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Run some hcg prior to discontinuing trt and certainly invest in some clomiphene. Clomiphene is the only SERM that is routinely prescribed off label for hypogonatropic hypogonadism. Reason being that its a phenomenal estrogen antagonist in the hypothalumus and is very effecient at eliciting an LH response.
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Run some hcg prior to discontinuing trt and certainly invest in some clomiphene. Clomiphene is the only SERM that is routinely prescribed off label for hypogonatropic hypogonadism. Reason being that its a phenomenal estrogen antagonist in the hypothalumus and is very effecient at eliciting an LH response.Last edited by Guest; 01-21-2013, 11:00 AM.Comment
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i'm the oddball here. I go on for 8 months and then come off once a year for 3-5 months and fully recover. I did TRT for 2 years and got to the point where I always had water retention and felt a little lethargic all the time. I always use hCG when on and every 2-3 months I'll take 3 weeks off and use some clomid. the system seems to work since I am recovered in 10 weeks according to blood work. The plus side is you get really healthy. The downside is you lose a lot of your gains by 4 months out.. but not all. But then again if you are on TRT in the first place why is it you think you can recover? If you HPTA has shit the bed you wont recover and just feel like shit 4 weeks into it and feel worse and worse. If you were on TRT through manipulation to get your test low, like I did, then you can probably recover. Also keeping body fat down will help in keeping your natti test up.Comment
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I think your on to something here in my case. I got myself on TRT but i had been on test the previous few months. I knew my levels would be low. Even with this i think my test levels would have been somewhat low for my age. Your also onto something with the body fat. When i first tested my BF was much higher. Thanks for the comments everyone. Lots to think about here.But then again if you are on TRT in the first place why is it you think you can recover? If you HPTA has shit the bed you wont recover and just feel like shit 4 weeks into it and feel worse and worse. If you were on TRT through manipulation to get your test low, like I did, then you can probably recover. Also keeping body fat down will help in keeping your natti test up.Last edited by Guest; 01-21-2013, 11:00 AM.Comment
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Remo,
Since your doc put you on, why dont you tell him your thoughts? If he takes you off for a break he will have remedies and won't just let you crash.Comment
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You say you got yourself on TRT but it sounds like you did it by using Test and then dropping it before the doctor visit so your levels would be very low. Did you really need TRT?
After a couple of years, it might be difficult to recover but you might be like the Glyco freak of nature.
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I know I need a kick in the butt but year I sort of set myself up to get the TrT test doses. Anyway it changed my life when i got on test. I never would have gone back to school and done anything. I really think I had an issue with low test but I plan to find out for sure now. I want to stay off of everything for a good while and see what my levels come to. Im going to stay in close contact with the doc for sure.You say you got yourself on TRT but it sounds like you did it by using Test and then dropping it before the doctor visit so your levels would be very low. Did you really need TRT?
After a couple of years, it might be difficult to recover but you might be like the Glyco freak of nature.Comment
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Sounds like what you are looking to do is blast and cruise. I wouldnt come off at all since youve already been on for so long. Just throw in your other stuff and do a blast cycle, then when youre done return to your regular trt dosage.Comment
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