What steroid can you do without?

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  • zeke
    Vet
    • May 2005
    • 666

    #16
    dbol, love the quick response time but I want to do nothing but sleep while on......

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    • Deacon
      Vet
      • Jan 2005
      • 3686

      #17
      Originally posted by BigSickD
      I have never used var and consider it a gear for the females.
      for sure
      Originally Posted by Doink the clown;
      "Every gym has the tard who never gets bigger,never shuts up,and never goes away!"


      "If you say you are not afraid to die either your lying or your a Ghurka,"

      "Amatures built the Ark - professionals built the Titanic."

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      • pincushn
        Vet
        • Apr 2005
        • 91

        #18
        Not a winny hater, but could do without it.

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        • NTG
          VET
          • Jun 2004
          • 205

          #19
          Originally posted by BigSickD
          I have never used var and consider it a gear for the females.
          Try it before u knock it broseph Run it at 80-100 you will have a different opinion. Most guys run it at or under 30 which is a waste.

          Good VAR above 75 is awesome. great punps good fullnes and good streangth.

          NTG
          VET@SSB

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          • cowboytroy

            #20
            TREN. I don't know why, but whatever is in that compound really jacks up my anxiety and makes me feel like shit. I've tried to use it 3 different times and by day 2 of the first shot i'm f'd up. It takes me a week to get over it. So never again. I'm a test and eq guy from now on.

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            • Persian
              VET
              • Oct 2007
              • 422

              #21
              Test E or Test Cyp or Sustanon

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              • NTG
                VET
                • Jun 2004
                • 205

                #22
                Originally posted by Persian
                Test E or Test Cyp or Sustanon
                first off those are all the same. test is test. those are mearly esters attached to it.

                Second..
                ur saying u can do without test? lol.

                I think someone needs to do some reading.

                NTG

                Thats like saying i hate to eat and hate food. i can do without it lol. Test is the base of ur system bro.

                VET@SSB

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                • Persian
                  VET
                  • Oct 2007
                  • 422

                  #23
                  Originally posted by NTG
                  first off those are all the same. test is test. those are mearly esters attached to it.

                  Second..
                  ur saying u can do without test? lol.

                  I think someone needs to do some reading.

                  NTG

                  Thats like saying i hate to eat and hate food. i can do without it lol. Test is the base of ur system bro.

                  I hate long esters ....I had the worse experience with Cy, E and Sus
                  I love prop dont get me wrong ...
                  results r good but sides with me no no

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                  • NTG
                    VET
                    • Jun 2004
                    • 205

                    #24
                    Originally posted by Persian
                    I hate long esters ....I had the worse experience with Cy, E and Sus
                    I love prop dont get me wrong ...
                    results r good but sides with me no no
                    i understand bro. however the question wasnt regarding esters was it? it said what aas can u do without.

                    likeing prop means u still like test. u get me? This is how people get quickly mis-informed. I think researching more and posting less may be a benefit to you in the long run.

                    no disrespect.

                    NTG
                    VET@SSB

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                    • Glycomann

                      #25
                      Halotestin, To damn toxic for just some temp strength and hardening.

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                      • Glycomann

                        #26
                        Originally posted by NTG
                        first off those are all the same. test is test. those are mearly esters attached to it.

                        Second..
                        ur saying u can do without test? lol.

                        I think someone needs to do some reading.

                        NTG

                        Thats like saying i hate to eat and hate food. i can do without it lol. Test is the base of ur system bro.

                        The base is the same but the ester changes the pharmacological character. The longer esteres tend to accumulate so aromatization to E and conversion to DHT can be more of a problem with the longer esters. There are other unknown reasons why some people suffer more extreme side effects with some esters. Back in the day I could do an equal amount of sustanon or cypionate and the cyp would give me terrible water retention whereas the sustanon game me little to none. Sure the released base is the same but the character of the drugs, which are different, is not the same.

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                        • NTG
                          VET
                          • Jun 2004
                          • 205

                          #27
                          Originally posted by Glycomann
                          The base is the same but the ester changes the pharmacological character. The longer esteres tend to accumulate so aromatization to E and conversion to DHT can be more of a problem with the longer esters. There are other unknown reasons why some people suffer more extreme side effects with some esters. Back in the day I could do an equal amount of sustanon or cypionate and the cyp would give me terrible water retention whereas the sustanon game me little to none. Sure the released base is the same but the character of the drugs, which are different, is not the same.
                          uh yea lol. i get that lol. not the point. the question was what steriod can u live without. yes obviously we all favor certain esters over others on various hormones based on past experience, intent and application ect.

                          I like mast P over mast e by far. doesnt mean i hate mast. is my point.

                          ntg
                          VET@SSB

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                          • Glycomann

                            #28
                            Originally posted by NTG
                            uh yea lol. i get that lol. not the point. the question was what steriod can u live without. yes obviously we all favor certain esters over others on various hormones based on past experience, intent and application ect.

                            I like mast P over mast e by far. doesnt mean i hate mast. is my point.

                            ntg
                            Good I'm glad you agree that test is not test.

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                            • bigpapabuff

                              #29
                              I could live without winny

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                              • basskiller
                                Administrator
                                • Aug 2003
                                • 2868

                                #30
                                winny.. I'm old... that shit make me feel even older
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