More Evil Tren Issues

[THE-DET-OAK]

That's a pretty hefty dose of T. I personally have never needed a dop ag on cycle. I don't want to try them cause of their sides.

I honestly doubt its prolactin. usually when your prolactin is high, you can get a wood and you still wanna screw, but it doesn't stay hard long. also when you do ejaculate, the seaman would be real watery and a milky like substance, instead of normal and it takes an eternity to go.

Deca tends to give prolactin problems more than tren. I think prolactin needs estrogen in order to get out of hand, unless you have a tumor.

I bet its high E that is your problem. Have you been feeling more tired as well? I would double that adex. even if you add the agonist.

[Shovel]

You sure your adex is good?

[Darkness]

That's a pretty hefty dose of T. I personally have never needed a dop ag on cycle. I don't want to try them cause of their sides.

I honestly doubt its prolactin. usually when your prolactin is high, you can get a wood and you still wanna screw, but it doesn't stay hard long. also when you do ejaculate, the seaman would be real watery and a milky like substance, instead of normal and it takes an eternity to go.

Deca tends to give prolactin problems more than tren. I think prolactin needs estrogen in order to get out of hand, unless you have a tumor.

I bet its high E that is your problem. Have you been feeling more tired as well? I would double that adex. even if you add the agonist.

Thanks. I am getting a bit more bloat. I have somewhat watery loads. And yes I take a long time to nut.

[Darkness]

You sure your adex is good?

Positive.

[bufbiker]

Thanks guys. I am gonna try to answer the questions:

I do have some prami laying around if I were to need it.

It is the first time I used tren, and nothing else affected me this way, so I would certainly assume my friend the tren.

I am taking adex at .25mgED

At focusfan, not sure what you mean, but many people choose to run 19nors without a D2 agonist because sometimes the sides from these compounds can be as bad as what you are trying to prevent. I didnt have any issues until I stopped it. I have heard of bros experiencing this also before.

@ Glyco: You are correct. That is the big picture solution for sure

How long on cycle? 11 weeks of tren + 3 more of just test and mast brings me to today.

Thanks everyone.

Run some adex at .5mg eod and never used prami because friends that have stated it messed with their heads a bit. But dost or caber at .5mg e3d until it clears. It should take about 2-4 weeks to clear depending on severity of the build up.
I also keep viagra and cialis on hand now when running any cycle. But at my age I'm very delicate.

[Freezerdude]

You can try some Prami for a week or so but you may end up needing some caber cause I'd bet the Farm it's your prolatic levels..Had a friend that is 26 and screwed himself all up running to much gear and GH, He was actually lactating and couldn't get wood to save his life, he said he could get his ladie to give him head and couldn't get things to work.. He tried prami with no help and ran some caber and it took a while but he finally got over it.. check it out..

http://www.iron-dragon.com/advanced_search_result.php?keywords=caber&osCsid=9a2bec05482a77468dbd5e765cbb168e&x=0&y=0

[Darkness]

Thanks guys. Lots of good knowledge and suggestions in here. I think I am going to try to pull down my prolactic levels a bit and get off. I was debating just getting off with PCT but if I have prolactin issues I wont recover with SERMs very well. Prolactin is an evil hormone since it is a positive feedback hormone, unlike just about all others which are negative feedback. Once you have it elevated, waiting for it to normalize without any manipulation can be a long long wait, at least according to what I have saw in others.

[focusfanatic01]

No way shape or form did I mean any offense or insult io was implying from ur knowledge I've seen before that I thought maybe u would've ran caber during cycle with the tren you were running that's all

[Darkness]

No way shape or form did I mean any offense or insult io was implying from ur knowledge I've seen before that I thought maybe u would've ran caber during cycle with the tren you were running that's all

no offense taken here. Some folks dont automatically run a D2A with 19nors since they seem to have sides worse than the problem they look to fix sometimes. I think, based this experience, that if I were to run tren again, I would add the D2A in last few weeks of the cycle to begin the process of leveling prolactin before the giant androgen crash. Or better yet, get some BW done in the midst of it to determine what to do. I had some BW a few weeks ago and I was really checking on non-hormonal markers. But I told the doc not to check test , check estro, and forgot to mention prolactin. Silly me.

[MR. BMJ]

Cabergoline is much more tolerable than other Dopaminergics. I'd give that a try first before prami. With Prami, it works great, but you really have to dose it correctly or else you will feel sluggish and spacy.

when I take caber, I don't even know I am taking it. It should help with prolactin issues, but you also have to have estrogen under control as well in prevention of gyno development.

[bufbiker]

With caber the only real side effect I've ever noticed was a hard on long after I get off. Not a bad thing.

[Shovel]

With caber the only real side effect I've ever noticed was a hard on long after I get off. Not a bad thing.

Same here. I made the mistake of trying to beat off after sex... Now that was a cardio session! lol

[mirage]

With caber the only real side effect I've ever noticed was a hard on long after I get off. Not a bad thing.

x 2 didnt notice any problem from the caber, dont be afraid of it...

[focusfanatic01]

I hear the orgasms are just unbearably awesome from caber

[Darkness]

Update:

I have been running the prami for about a week and ramped the dose up to 1mg ED. My nuts still seem small and I dont have much interest in sexual stuff. It takes forever to nut, but when I do it feels like my cawk is flying apart, very intense in a localized sense. At first the small dose of prami at .25 and .5mg made me kinda sick and sleepy, but I am tolerating 1mg very well now as if nothing happened at all. I am also running HCG at 200iu EOD and tapered down the test, and will be coming down to a minimal cruise replacement dose (maybe 200mgEW) in a week or so. What do you guys think...how long should I run the prami?