Is this possible?

[Dawgpound_Hank]

Is it possible that my body produces natty testosterone the equivalent of injecting 150-200mg every 7-10 days of test e? Reason I ask is I've always been kinda big even when natty. And I've been running trt doses of test e around 150-200mg every 7-10 days for about 4 months or so. I posted a thread last month saying about how running that low dose is much better than being off, but damn, here it is a month later and I might as well be natty - back down to my normal off-weight of around 240, strength is back down to normal - like when I'm off, veins disappearing, so wtf? For me, no diff than being off. Also, my balls are back to normal size, and loads bigger, just like when I'm off.

I've read before of guys posting their blood testosterone levels around 800-900'ish when on trt of 100-150mg ew. Sooo, would it be a far cry for myself to be producing that naturally? Either that, or my gear is shit haha - and I don't believe it is as it's the same stuff been using for a while now, even last cycle, which gave great results. I ain't getting no blood test to check bcoz my insurance doesn't cover that, and it's like $100+ I believe.

[liftsiron]

150-200mgs of test would still keep your natural test production shut down.

[tobyonekinobi]

I go too any lab test now and get the test checked for 49 dollars. I dont get the free test or anything else. I do it to make sure my levels are good before i go see doc to keep prescription

[Glycomann]

the answer is lab test.

[Darkness]

Yea lab test. Peeps metabolize testosterone at vastly different rates.

[bufbiker]

Your body has adjusted to that level which means while at the beginning you had natty test plus injected test so levels were higher. But now the body gas told itself it doesn't need to produce as much natty, so your back to normal or even below normal ranges.
I know you already know all this but it's something I learned through trial and error.
Another possibility is your estrogen levels are climbing. Are you running any ai with your self medication of test?

[Joe0690]

You just solidified it for me I won't never come off if u feel no difference on those doses

[Joe0690]

And why are you being so conservative about it just run 250mg a week... but if ur back down to regular I would just come off and save it for ur next cycle then maybe try 250mg a week after u come off ur bigger doses

[Dawgpound_Hank]

You just solidified it for me I won't never come off if u feel no difference on those doses

Don't use myself as the benchmark dude - I'm not normal haha. Also, conservative is my middle name. Why run 250 hell might as well be on with that. I'm just gonna come off as I always have and be gtg. Clean out & fire one up come spring.

Buf no AI dude - never needed to run that even on real cycle, so not gonna mess with it just on trt.

[bufbiker]

I think coming off completely is good for you. It's so much better when you start back up. I know it seems like 3 steps forward tgen 2 steps back, but you've still made that one step gain that you wouldn't have had except for the cycle. Besides all that, when I'm off I save money. I don't have to use viagra every day because everything is working better for me.

[Rider]

I'm on TRT for years, wish I could take a break. I'm happy for you bro, but like the others said, def do a lab test to make sure.

[BrutalHoney]

So... the original question was: is it possible he was naturally producing 800-900ish. I'm putting on my Sherlock hat here...

I think the answer is, maybe, but it'd be pretty unusual. Let's examine the details.

First, don't forget that test-e has some bloat to it, which can explain the veins disappearing. Now, for the balls being back to normal, which I assume means bigger... I'm wondering if your test isn't bunk. Are you running HCG? If not, why would that ever happen while on?

As for loads being bigger, I don't know, I've had about a gallon while on before, and plenty when I'm off if I don't make a deposit anywhere for about a week...

Strength dropping a bit is also a sign that your test is maybe bunk.

But I don't think it's totally bunk, maybe underdosed? Because if you were off the stuff, without a PCT, you'd crash. And you'd know it.

Of course there are a million other factors, your life in general, maybe getting "used to" the TRT dose, maybe it's a seasonal thing with you, how's your diet, how's your sleep... Blah.

Anyway, what I'm thinking is: the only way to really know what you produce naturally is to go off and wait a few months for everything to be completely back to normal, then do a blood test. And even then, who knows if things changed since before you went on and now.