Worst compounds for heart health?

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  • Joe0690
    Vet
    • Mar 2007
    • 1205

    Worst compounds for heart health?

    What are the worst drugs for the heart?
  • Glycomann

    #2
    Maybe Clenbuterol and Trenbolone.

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    • b52
      Moderator
      • Oct 2006
      • 2401

      #3
      Eq is also not the best. The vascularity people desire from it is technically not a "good thing."

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      • MR. BMJ
        Moderator
        • Apr 2006
        • 3209

        #4
        Winstrol eviscerates HDl, lol.

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        • liftsiron
          Administrator
          • Nov 2003
          • 18435

          #5
          Originally posted by b52
          Eq is also not the best. The vascularity people desire from it is technically not a "good thing."
          Why?
          ADMIN/OWNER@Peak-Muscle

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          • jrod
            Moderator
            • Jun 2010
            • 1304

            #6
            Perhaps he’s referring to the increase it causes in rbc’s?

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            • b52
              Moderator
              • Oct 2006
              • 2401

              #7
              Originally posted by liftsiron
              Why?
              Increase in red blood cells in some, not all is enough to cause the heart valves to not operate as they should. I read a study on it a while back I'll see if i can find it. The vascularity is one of the desirable affects of eq but it stems from the heart valves not operating 100%.

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              • liftsiron
                Administrator
                • Nov 2003
                • 18435

                #8
                Originally posted by b52
                Increase in red blood cells in some, not all is enough to cause the heart valves to not operate as they should. I read a study on it a while back I'll see if i can find it. The vascularity is one of the desirable affects of eq but it stems from the heart valves not operating 100%.
                I would like to see the study. I'll look and see what I can find in regard to this also.
                ADMIN/OWNER@Peak-Muscle

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                • b52
                  Moderator
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 2401

                  #9
                  Originally posted by liftsiron
                  Why?
                  Originally posted by liftsiron
                  I would like to see the study. I'll look and see what I can find in regard to this also.
                  I will look when I'm free. It was written by a doctor who studied patients that were using equipoise. It was a little while back but I'm sure it's floating around.

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                  • Glycomann

                    #10
                    My understanding is that the vascularity from EQ is related ti high red cells in the presence of lower estrogen. So is is like a tick full of blood kind of effect. EQ and anadrol are the most effective at raising red cells and consequently blood volume. Heavy androgens stimulate the androgen receptors in smooth muscle including the vasculature. As result the cells become hypertonic and cannot pump as efficiently. Most don't realize that the vasculature pumps.

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                    • liftsiron
                      Administrator
                      • Nov 2003
                      • 18435

                      #11
                      Originally posted by Glycomann
                      My understanding is that the vascularity from EQ is related ti high red cells in the presence of lower estrogen. So is is like a tick full of blood kind of effect. EQ and anadrol are the most effective at raising red cells and consequently blood volume. Heavy androgens stimulate the androgen receptors in smooth muscle including the vasculature. As result the cells become hypertonic and cannot pump as efficiently. Most don't realize that the vasculature pumps.
                      This sounds right, I get great vasculaity without any rise in blood pressure. I don't do super high doses like those that some guys claim to do either.
                      ADMIN/OWNER@Peak-Muscle

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                      • b52
                        Moderator
                        • Oct 2006
                        • 2401

                        #12
                        How do you post a pdf

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                        • Friggemall

                          #13
                          Originally posted by b52
                          How do you post a pdf
                          I have to do this in 3 posts sorry...
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                          Last edited by Guest; 08-12-2019, 11:35 AM.

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                          • Friggemall

                            #14
                            Next his manage attachments
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                            • Friggemall

                              #15
                              then browse and upload
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