Going to start a friend on 1st cycle...

[tlane]

He is ready to start and I was wondering if this would be a decent 1st run? He doesnt want to get really massive really fast, just put on a few solid pounds of muscle and try to look a little more dense/harder.

test enan 250mg/wk 12wks
tren enan 200mg/wk 10wks
20mg var/ed 8weeks
20mg nolva/ ed wks 1-3, 20mg eod wks 4-12

hes 38, 6'2, 225lbs.

[black7]

Man you know WAYYYY more than me about this stuff, but why not just test only for first time? just wondering.

[tlane]

Well, I figured with his lifting experience and OTC supps he has ran over the past, the var and tren will help him achieve the hardened look while the test will add more muscle but with a little water rention, hes wanting and help build a lil more quality lean muscle and help get them veins to come on out better also.

[Friggemall]

I'd think he would be happy with a test only first run. You really want to start a guy out on tren?

[tlane]

well its the lowest dose recommended tren enen 100mg 2x week, also he doesnt want the bloat and water retention from dbol or drol, but also wants that strength increase.

[black7]

well its the lowest dose recommended tren enen 100mg 2x week, also he doesnt want the bloat and water retention from dbol or drol, but also wants that strength increase.

+1 I love tren... LOL so I cant really talk shit HAHA

[Big B]

Wow, multiple compounds on first run. Tren for first time??? Nooooooooo....

[A1food4u]

I'm with some of the others, Tren in a mix on the first cycle isn't something I would do..

[tlane]

thanks for the input, all.

[tlane]

I guess I just have to take the tren e, shucks!! lol

[black7]

I guess I just have to take the tren e, shucks!! lol

one 4 the team

[Shovel]

I'm with the others. Just test this time

[tlane]

one 4 the team

def one of the few times i don't mind doing so, lol. Still gonna puthim on the var, i know women that run var only cycles at 10-20mg haha, i think he'll be alright with test 250 1x a week and 20mg var ed.

[black7]

def one of the few times i don't mind doing so, lol. Still gonna puthim on the var, i know women that run var only cycles at 10-20mg haha, i think he'll be alright with test 250 1x a week and 20mg var ed.

I HAVE NEVER TRIED VAR

[tlane]

Var is by far one of my favorites.