1st cycle

[big1papi]

hey guys, whats up! New to this board, lots of great info. I look forward to reading everyday while I am hard at work. Here is my question. looking to do my 1st cycle. I am 30 5'9 225 pretty solid all around, have small gut,( not that bad) I have already tighten up my diet. What do you guys with experience recommend. I am of course looking to put on size, but would like to cut & tone up.... thanks

[rado]

Welcome to PM !

I would simply do a test cycle at a range of 500mgs for 10wks, followed by PCT. Some will probably tell you to go with a lower dose of test, that could also work for you. Does baldness run in your family or you? Some lose hair while on test.

At your age I think with test and MAYBE some eq, proper diet, rest and training, no reason not to add some good size. If you plan your 1st cycle out carefully, it'll be the best cycle gains ever.

Some just don't plan ahead and fuck up. If you want to lose the gut a bit, get yourself a good ECA stack from our sponsors and you can even throw that in with your diet and training for better fat loss....

[rado]

I forgot to add;

Get some HCG(some will argue this) and take 500iu's E4D from start to end of cycle.

[JohnnyB]

I agree with the test cycle, how long you been training?

JohnnyB

[liftsiron]

I think that a simple test cycle followed by pct will do you well.

[house1]

hey guys, whats up! New to this board, lots of great info. I look forward to reading everyday while I am hard at work. Here is my question. looking to do my 1st cycle. I am 30 5'9 225 pretty solid all around, have small gut,( not that bad) I have already tighten up my diet. What do you guys with experience recommend. I am of course looking to put on size, but would like to cut & tone up.... thanks

welcome bro --

at your age and weight --

test only -- 400 mgs 12 weeks followed by pct

for your pct you can run nolva at 40 mgs for 14 days then 20 mgs for another 14 days -- start this 2 weeks after last test injection -

keep things simple!

also you either want to pack on size or cut --its hard to do both at the same time -- you can pound the calories at the beggining then reduce them towards the end-

but most guys when running a cycle are either looking to run cutting cycle or bulking cycle and run there diet accordingly - its hard to do both!

[big1papi]

Thanks for the advice. What do you recommend for a ECA stack, do you think I would be better off with sustanon, or test cypionate.... Sorry but what does pct stand for. thanks

[quez82]

I'd rather you start with a single ester...Running sust and accomodating the shorter esters (eod inj's)..You'd be better off with less frequent inj's and steadier levels with Cyp...Simple, yet effective brotha...

[bigkarch]

I think everyone says the same thing....me included

[CO-B16]

i agree with all of the above.....test only at 400-500mgs a week, single ester(enanthate, or cypionate)...... and a clomid/nolva combo for pct(post cycle therapy)....pct helps the testicles along in starting their own testosterone production again....this is very crucial to keeping your gains....

[zeke]

Like my grandmother always told me, "test is the best thing for men and it gives your grandfather great boners".

[Deacon]

I agree with the above statements

[MentalMike]

i agree with the rest of these clowns

[rado]

i agree with the rest of these clowns

Who u callin a clown fool


But the boys covered it well for you

[Deacon]

I agree with everyone but Rado