I have a confession to make...

[MR. BMJ]

I don't even know you anymore.....

[Dawgpound_Hank]

I mean it comes down to 1 thing - coming off sucks. Sucks for everyone. Nobody likes getting smaller and weaker while off. And yes everybody does get smaller and weaker when off - don't beleive the bullshitters who act like they are as strong/big off as on pffft. If thats the case, they never even need to run gear duh.lol Man up dude, give your body a well needed break and don't risk health issues just bcoz you want to always be jacked. I've been off 2 years and still kickin' ass with the iron - I'm sure you can hack it just 6 months.

[Freezerdude]

I don't even know you anymore.....

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!! Best one ever!!!!!!!

[Glycomann]

I always forget about Lifts. He seems to do fine with good bloods and everything. Some guys do fine. I think most of us need a break though.

[Glycomann]

I mean it comes down to 1 thing - coming off sucks. Sucks for everyone. Nobody likes getting smaller and weaker while off. And yes everybody does get smaller and weaker when off - don't beleive the bullshitters who act like they are as strong/big off as on pffft. If thats the case, they never even need to run gear duh.lol Man up dude, give your body a well needed break and don't risk health issues just bcoz you want to always be jacked. I've been off 2 years and still kickin' ass with the iron - I'm sure you can hack it just 6 months.

How long did it take until you felt recovered?

[bufbiker]

I blasted for well over two years straight with no break. I will admit to being sloppy with my ai usage as well.
My libido plummeted to zero, the only way I could have sex with the old lady was with the help of cialis or viagra, but I was as strong as a bull and built like a brick out house.
A couple of months ago I went down to 250mg a week of Cyp, then switched to E when I ran out of Cyp. I also became religious with my ai use (I chose aromasin at 10mg e3d then down to 5 mg e3d) And I began noticing a vast improvement in my libido, my strength did not diminish at all and I had more energy during the work day.
Two weeks ago I upped my dose to 500mg a week, one shot a week. I actually feel like I'm on a cycle again. I get erections when the wind blows hard, my weight is going up again, but lean gains. Strength is improving to extra superhuman again.
I think we need to at least lower our dosing periodically just to be able to feel the effects of a full dose when we decide to blast again.
Of course a year ago if I had heard myself say blasting at 500mg a week I would have laughed at myself.
I never thought I would say this, if you can't grow on 500mg of test only a week then there is somethig wrong.

[Dawgpound_Hank]

How long did it take until you felt recovered?

I never ran large amounts or for crazy durations. I never cruised, never bridged. When I came off I was off. Most my cycles were less than 1g total/ew, 12-16 weekers, then off for the same. I was usually feeling "recovered" after about 5-6 weeks I guess, however I never did bloodwork post cycle so thats not 100% certain that I was.

[willi]

Glyco, those are all excellent posts and great for us who are always learning. I've been at this a while but Im not in science so I forget a lot. I appreciate your knowledge and your willingness to share that.

[willi]

This is an excellent thread with great posts. This material matters big time.

[Glycomann]

I blasted for well over two years straight with no break. I will admit to being sloppy with my ai usage as well.
My libido plummeted to zero, the only way I could have sex with the old lady was with the help of cialis or viagra, but I was as strong as a bull and built like a brick out house.
A couple of months ago I went down to 250mg a week of Cyp, then switched to E when I ran out of Cyp. I also became religious with my ai use (I chose aromasin at 10mg e3d then down to 5 mg e3d) And I began noticing a vast improvement in my libido, my strength did not diminish at all and I had more energy during the work day.
Two weeks ago I upped my dose to 500mg a week, one shot a week. I actually feel like I'm on a cycle again. I get erections when the wind blows hard, my weight is going up again, but lean gains. Strength is improving to extra superhuman again.
I think we need to at least lower our dosing periodically just to be able to feel the effects of a full dose when we decide to blast again.
Of course a year ago if I had heard myself say blasting at 500mg a week I would have laughed at myself.
I never thought I would say this, if you can't grow on 500mg of test only a week then there is somethig wrong.

Funny how that works but i think you"re right. Especially older guys like us that have built the house already. The body sort of resets when we either cruise on the low end or come right off for a good while.

[Glycomann]

Glyco, those are all excellent posts and great for us who are always learning. I've been at this a while but Im not in science so I forget a lot. I appreciate your knowledge and your willingness to share that.

Everybody here is pretty good and i think everyone is still learning.

[P. Bateman]

I am a blast and cruise guy, but really it is all blast and damn little cruise anymore. I think the last time I cruised for real was Autumn on 2010. Wow thats a long time. That never stopped me from preaching to the people about doing this safely and healthy and blah blah blah. "Here take my advice I'm not using it."

So anyhow I dropped everything last week except 250mg EW test. I am going to run this for 8 weeks and get some BW done in the mean time and continue to train and eat hard. I have told myself that if I am a good little boy, I can have my favorite cocktail May 1....test/tren/mast blend with enough tbol to cook my liver.

That's all.

Pussy!

[BigSickD]

This is it, damn bro I thought you were finally gonna come out the closet. Shit I have been ON for like 10years and I cruise on 500mg a week 300 mg eq

[Darkness]

This is it, damn bro I thought you were finally gonna come out the closet. Shit I have been ON for like 10years and I cruise on 500mg a week 300 mg eq

That's the thing, folks can do different things. There are guys at my gym who have been on 500test and 600decca for like 10 years, and a cycle to them is when they throw in anadrol and tren for a couple months before a meet. I seem to have to blast lower and cruise lower, which is why I say that everyone who is healthy is probably doin it right.

Pussy!

You could probably say that.

[John Benz]

I don't even know you anymore.....

Too funny!