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  • b52
    Moderator
    • Oct 2006
    • 2399

    Different cycle?

    So I'm thinking of straying from the norm. I've heard some of you guys talk about running test at base levels of 200-250mg and high nandrolones. Were the results better than running the test at a higher dose? What is the reasoning behind this?

    So I'm thinking

    cyp at 200-250mgwk 16-20wks

    npp 100mg eod 8 weeks

    dbol 25mg day 4 weeks

    tren a 100mg eod last 8 weeks

    var 50mg last 6 weeks

    ai's as needed

    caber as needed

    hcg 500 iu tue/sat
  • Glycomann

    #2
    20 weeks kills me. I feel lethargic and joints achey the last 1/3. If I'm going to cycle and push it a bit I do 8 on 4 off 8 on 4 off 8 on. Now a dayd the 4 off is 100 mg test C and a shot of hCG a week. The 8 weeks includes a ramp up and a ramp down.

    Example

    1-8 Test 200 mg
    1-3 400 Primo
    4-6 750 Primo
    7-8 300 Primo

    1-4 Test C 100 mg: hCG 1000 iu

    1-3 400 EQ
    1-4 150 test C; 150 Tren Ace
    4-6 750 EQ
    7-8 300 EQ; 150 Test C

    1-4 Test C 100 mg: hCG 1000 iu

    1-8 Test C 150 mg
    2-7 Anavar 280 mg

    Back to TRT

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    • liftsiron
      Administrator
      • Nov 2003
      • 18433

      #3
      I would switch the times tren first then npp.
      ADMIN/OWNER@Peak-Muscle

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      • b52
        Moderator
        • Oct 2006
        • 2399

        #4
        Originally posted by Glycomann
        20 weeks kills me. I feel lethargic and joints achey the last 1/3. If I'm going to cycle and push it a bit I do 8 on 4 off 8 on 4 off 8 on. Now a dayd the 4 off is 100 mg test C and a shot of hCG a week. The 8 weeks includes a ramp up and a ramp down.

        Example

        1-8 Test 200 mg
        1-3 400 Primo
        4-6 750 Primo
        7-8 300 Primo

        1-4 Test C 100 mg: hCG 1000 iu

        1-3 400 EQ
        1-4 150 test C; 150 Tren Ace
        4-6 750 EQ
        7-8 300 EQ; 150 Test C

        1-4 Test C 100 mg: hCG 1000 iu

        1-8 Test C 150 mg
        2-7 Anavar 280 mg

        Back to TRT

        I don't think I'm quite there yet with the complexity. Just planning on sticking to a constant dose. No ramping up yet for me.

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        • Roughrydr
          Moderator
          • Oct 2017
          • 2174

          #5
          I'm really really old and n oi t wanting to grow any more. But I dont want to shrink or grow too weak either. So for the past couple of months I've been running 300mg of test c a week and 25 mg of tbol every day. I look good. I feel good. Lots of energy.
          Less isnt more, I realize that but simpler is better in my opinion.
          OFFO




          Muscle Forged In Pain

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          • zeke
            Vet
            • May 2005
            • 666

            #6
            Currently;

            750mgs/wk Test Cyp (26 wks)
            600mgs/wk EQ (26 wks)
            350mgs/wk Var (14 wks)
            4iu's/day racetropin (till hell freezes over)

            I started after my doctors visit two weeks ago. Taking arthritis med daily and going to go back once a month for cortisone shot. So far the gh, cortisone, and arthritis med is preventing any shoulder pain. I've put on about 7 lbs in two wks. Diet could be a little cleaner but I'm happy overall with the way it's going.

            Z-
            Last edited by zeke; 10-05-2018, 01:29 PM.

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            • b52
              Moderator
              • Oct 2006
              • 2399

              #7
              So since I'm combining long esters and short esters I've decided to keep the eod 50mg prop in the cycle.

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              • HDH
                Moderator
                • Jun 2015
                • 1502

                #8
                If you decide to go the 20 weeks before you start are you ging to run the dbol with the short ester tren/npp or will you go-

                dbol- 1 / 4

                short- 5 / 12

                short- 13 / 20

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                • b52
                  Moderator
                  • Oct 2006
                  • 2399

                  #9
                  Running cyp and prop full 20 weeks. Will put me at about 450 mg wk. More on the low end. The dbol I'm actually thinking of waiting on starting. I'm running danazol currently and don't want to stack more orals. Danazol is an shbg binder, so in theory everything should have better binding ability and work that much better. I was originally going to run dbol with the short ester tren and see how that goes but I might switch with var since it's much less toxic.

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                  • HDH
                    Moderator
                    • Jun 2015
                    • 1502

                    #10
                    I've been running TUDCA for liver. I haven't tested myself but I've been following it for some time and seeing other test and it's some pretty good shit from what I can tell. There are a couple studies out on it too.

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