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    what are the main differences between winstroll and eq?
  • Easto

    #2
    From Anabolicreview.com

    EQ
    Today, the substance boldenone undecylenate can only be found in steroids for veterinary medicine. The American Equipoise is for horses; the Columbian Ganabol is used for cattle; and the German Vebonol for dogs. Athletes do not care, which shows the enormous popularity and far-reaching application of these steroid compounds. Boldenone undecylenate is also very effective in humans and offers the athlete interesting characteristics which other steroids simply do not have.

    Equipoise has a relatively high anabolic effect which is usually connected with a moderately distinct androgenic component. For this reason, Equipoise is not the steroid that will cause enormous gains in strength and muscle mass in the shortest time. Equipoise has a very favorable effect on the organism's nitrogen balance so that the main effect consists of a distinctly increased protein synthesis in the muscle cell. The resulting gain in body weight consists of a solid quality increase of the muscles which occurs slowly and evenly. The high quality is caused by low water retention of the substance. An additional advantage is that Equipoise aromatizes only slightly, thus making it an effective drug to use when preparing for competitions. Athletes who are dieting combine Equipoise with Winstrol Depot and report a dramatic increase in muscle hardness. Together with a sufficiently high supply of calories and protein this combination offers its users a large increase in strength and a rapid gain in qual-ity muscles. Many will notice that Equipoise stimulates the appe-tite. The advantages achieved can usually be well-maintained over several weeks after use of the compound is discontinued. Equipoise also stimulates the erythropoiesis which is manifested by improved development and the formation of red blood cells. Bodybuilders thus experience an improved pump effect during workout and an im-proved vascularity

    For most male athletes the weekly dosage is usually 150-300 mg. Often since only the 25 mg version can be found, frequent or very voluminous injections are necessary For most athletes 50 mg (corresponding to a 2 ml injection) taken every second day is sufficient. Advanced and ambitious bodybuilders usually take higher doses (50 mg daily) and achieve dramatic results. Women also usually respond well to Equipoise and with 5 0-100 mg/week they gain good muscles with a low water retention. A dosage in this range is usually well tolerated. Higher dosages can cause virilization symptoms such as deep voice, increased production of the sebaccous gland and acne, increased libido and in some cases increased hair growth on the face and legs. Men have few problems with Equipoise. Since water and salt retentions are low, the blood pressure usually does not increase. Acne, gynecomastia, and increased aggressiveness occur only in rare instances. The feared "steroid fever," which can occur when using veterinary steroids, is rare with Equipoise since the product by Squibb is highly sterile and pure. Those who experience flu-like symptoms when they begin taking the compound should reduce the dosage for a short time. The price on the black market for a 10 ml vial is usu-ally around $90. The 50 ml vial is usually around $250.

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    • Easto

      #3
      Winny
      Winstrol is one of the favorite steroids in general, as confirmed by many positive doping cases. Stanozolol, for example, was one of the substances which enabled Ben Johnson to achieve his magic sprints. It also gave this excep-tional athlete a distinctly visible gain in hard and defined quality muscles, possibly making quite a few bodybuilders envious. During the first doping-tested professional bodybuilding championships, the Arnold's Classic 1990, the winner, Shawn Ray, and the enormously massive Canadian pro, Nimrod King, tested positive on Winstrol (stanozolol), (FLEX, July 1990). The Track and Field World Champi-onships 1993 in Stuttgart also brought two positive "stanozolol cases" to light. To make a long story short: Winstrol is a very effec-tive steroid when used correctly. It is important to distinguish be-tween the two different forms of administration of stanozolol, since the injectable Winstrol Depot is distinctly more effective than the oral Winstrol. Thus it is preferred by most athletes.

      What is special about the injectable Winstrol Depot is that its sub-stance is not-as is common in almost all steroids-dissolved in oil; it is dissolved in water. Although almost every steroid-experienced bodybuilder knows this difference, the practical application of this knowledge rarely occurs: the injection-free intervals of the com-pound Winstrol Depot must be distinctly shorter than with the other common steroids. Simplified, this means that Winstrol Depot 50 mg/ml must be injected much more frequently than the oil-dis-solved steroids (e.g. Primobolan, Deca-Durabolin, Sustanon 250, Parabolan, etc.). The reason for this is the relative low half-life time of steroids. Those dissolved in water must be injected at least every second day, and best results are observed at a daily injection of 50 mg. The substance stanozolol is a precursor to the dihydrotestosterone and consequently, it prevents Winstrol Depot from aromatizing into estrogens with water retention occurring only rarely. Based on these characteristics the main application of Winstrol Depot is clearly defined in bodybuilding: preparation for a competi-tion. Together with a calorie-reduced diet which is rich in protein Winstrol Depot gives the muscles a continuously harder appear-ance. Winstrol Depot is usually not used as the only steroid during dieting since, based on its low androgenic component, it does not reliably protect the athlete from losing muscle tissue. The missing, pronounced androgenic effect is often balanced by a combined in-take with Parabolan. Depending on the athlete's per-formance level, the athlete usually takes 50 mg Winstrol Depot ev-ery 1-2 days and Parabolan 76 mg/1.5 ml every 1-2 day. Although there is no scientific proof of a special combined action between Winstrol Depot and Parabolan, based on several practical examples, a synergetic effect seems likely. Other steroids which athletes suc-cessfully combine with Winstrol Depot during the preparation for a competition include Masteron, Equipoise, Halotestin, Oxandrolone, Testosterone propionate, Primobolan, and HGH.

      Winstrol Depot, however, is not only especially suited during prepa-ration for a competition but also in a gaining phase. Since it does not cause water retention rapid weight gains with Winstrol Depot are very rare. However, a solid muscle gain and an over proportionally strong strength increase occur, usually remaining after use of the compound is discontinued. Bodybuilders who want to build up strength and mass often combine Winstrol Depot with Dianabol, Anadrol 50, Testosterone, or Deca-Durabolin. With a stack of 100 mg Anadrol 50/day, 50 mg Winstrol Depot/day, and 400 mg Deca-Durabolin/week the user slowly gets into the dosage range of am-bitious competing athletes. Older athletes and steroid novices can achieve good progress with either Winstrol Depot/Deca-Durabolin or Winstrol Depot/Primobolan Depot. They use quite a harmless stack which normally does not lead to noticeable side effects. This leaves steroid novices with enough room for the "harder" stuff which they do not yet need in this phase. Winstrol Depot is mainly an anabolic steroid with a moderate, androgenic effect which, however, can especially manifest itself in women dosing 50 mg/week and in men dosing higher quantities. Problems in female athletes usually occur when a quantity of 50 mg is injected twice weekly. The effect of Winstrol Depot decreases considerably after a few days and thus an injection at least twice weekly is justified. However, an undesired accumulation of androgens in the female organism can occur, re-sulting in masculinization symptoms - Some deep female voices cer-tainly originated with the intake of Winstrol Depot. However, a dose of 50 mg Winstrol Depot every second day in ambitious female athletes is the rule rather than the exception. Other non-androgenic side effects can occur in men as well as in women, manifesting them-selves in headaches, cramps, changes in the HDL and LDL values, and in rare cases, in high blood pressure. Possible liver damage can be estimated as very low when Winstrol is injected; however, in large doses an elevation in the liver values is possible. Since Winstrol Depot is dissolved in water the injections are usually more uncom-fortable or more painful than is the case with oily solutions.

      Although there are many fakes of the injectable Winstrol, the origi-nal "Winny " as it is lovingly called by its users, is easily recognized based on its unusual form of administration. At a first glance the content of the ampule is only a milky, white, watery solution which, however, has distinct characteristics. Original "Winny " is recognized because the substance separates from the watery injection fluid when the ampule is not shaken for some time. When the ampule is left flat in its ampule box or, for example, stands upright on a table, the substance accumulates as a distinctly visible white layer on the lower side of the glass and can only be mixed with the watery fluid if shaken several times or rolled forward and backward. An ampule containing I ml of suspension and its 50 mg dissolved stanozolol should normally separate a white layer in the size of almost a thumb-nail. The athlete thus can easily determine whether his injectable Winstrol is actually stanozolol or is rather under closed. Do not buy ampules or glass vials which contain more than I ml of suspension since an original injectable Winstrol is only available in one-millili-ter glass ampules. The price for a 50 mg Winstrol Depot ampule lies be-tween $10 - 15 on the black market.

      When injected daily Winstrol Depot can become a very expensive compound. It also has the disadvantage that, because of the fre-quent injections, the already-mentioned scar tissue will develop in the gluteal region (buttocks) which leads many athletes to inject Winstrol in their shoulders, arms, legs or even calves. Although this was originally intended as an expedient, injecting Winstrol Depot into certain muscles has become increasingly popular since athletes have noticed that this leads to an accelerated growth of the affected muscle. An American pro bodybuilder who is known for his cross striated, horseshoe- shaped triceps owes this in considerable part to his regular "triceps Winstrol-Depot injections." A confusion with the also often used Esiclene is excluded. Athletes who want to avoid daily injections usually take 2-3ml Winstrol Depot twice a week. in the U.S. injectable stanozolol is manufactured only for veterinary medicine. It is distributed under the name Winstrol V by Winthrop and Upjohn.

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      • jyzza
        Vet
        • Jul 2003
        • 767

        #4
        Winny is used in cutting cycles…..but EQ can be used in both bulking and cutting cycle, depends on your goal…

        Personally I like EQ better since it makes me more vascular and I don’t have the joint pain as you get from the use of Winny…
        * muj kochanie *

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        • takemo

          #5
          I also prefer EQ over V,but they work very well together in a cutting stack,throw some fina in and you'll be amazed.

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          • prolangtum

            #6
            I feel nothing on EQ. Winny kills my joints and hair, not to mention its a 17aa. Give me Deca and Tren respectivley over those two anyday.

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            • symatech

              #7
              <!--QuoteBegin-prolangtum+Jul 2 2003, 02:43 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (prolangtum &#064; Jul 2 2003, 02:43 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> I feel nothing on EQ.&nbsp; Winny kills my joints and hair, not to mention its a 17aa.&nbsp; Give me Deca and Tren respectivley over those two anyday. [/b][/quote]
              was your eq legit?

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              • takemo

                #8
                Prolangtum,how long were you on eq for,it takes a long time to kick in fully and you really need to stack it with something.by itself i don&#39;t notice much results,but stacked with something it is awesome.

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                • JohnnyB
                  vet
                  • Jul 2003
                  • 2012

                  #9
                  Winny is a 17aa.

                  JohnnyB

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                  • FKITLETSGO

                    #10
                    Winstrol is 17aa and can be processed by the liver. Winny is also a DHT inhibitor which can quickin the process of hair loss if you are predisposed. Winstrol has a short halflife which in turn suscribes for frequent injections or doses if taken orally.

                    Eq gives increased nitrogen retention which in turn enables greater protein synthesis. this is very impt with bulking or cutting for bodybuilders due to high protein consumption.

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                    • prolangtum

                      #11
                      <!--QuoteBegin-takemo+Jul 2 2003, 04:53 PM--></span><table border='0' align='center' width='95%' cellpadding='3' cellspacing='1'><tr><td>QUOTE (takemo @ Jul 2 2003, 04:53 PM)</td></tr><tr><td id='QUOTE'><!--QuoteEBegin--> Prolangtum,how long were you on eq for,it takes a long time to kick in fully and you really need to stack it with something.by itself i don&#39;t notice much results,but stacked with something it is awesome. [/b][/quote]
                      I have known many to have success on test/EQ. 400mg of Test, and 600mg of EQ is a great cycle. I would frontload the EQ week 1 at 1200mg. As i said though i dont respodn well to it.

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                      • symatech

                        #12
                        I think the doses that the profile suggests may be a bit low however.

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                        • rado

                          #13
                          I love EQ rather than winny. Winny makes some of my joints hurt unlike EQ I enjoy the consistent gains and vascularity I get from it. Besides, EQ as not as harsh as winny is.

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