Critique my diet please

[skullsmasher]

Yeah, I meant the yogurt. I really don't like any sort of simple sugars when trying to diet. Yogurt, milk, fruit is a simple sugar. Some people with a good metabolism can get away with things like that, but most can't.

the milk thing always confused me. isnt milk a low GI carb? I always get mixed responses about this..?

[Stout1]

I thought I would be alright as long as I reach my daily goals as far as protein and carbs go.

Look at it like this....

If you eat 3000 cals a day (for example)

You eat three meals; each 1000 cals a piece

or

You eat five meals; each 600 cals a piece



What do you think is better? Yeah the total is the same in the end, but your body's ability to process and assilimate that food is far far superior when you spread your meals out every 3 hours.

Also if one meal has 75g protein then the next only has 15 g protein, then so on and so on. I really don't like that. That is why I am a big fan of structing your meal plans around your day, work out, etc. Cut the carbs off late at night, and I could go on and on. But how you plan your meals is just as important.

[Stout1]

the milk thing always confused me. isnt milk a low GI carb? I always get mixed responses about this..?

Look at the back panel. It is all sugar for the most part. I would bet at least 80% sugar in there. Also depending on if we are talking skim, whole, 2%, etc. But sugar is in there.

[skullsmasher]

I eat about 4-6 times a day roughly. I just eat everything I pack for work, piece by piece throughout the day, 10 hrs. when I get home I eat a shake after I lift and before bed which consists of milk and protein. its fat free milk, for what thats worth.

[skullsmasher]

I found this somewhere. it helped me make my decision to include milk into my diet.

"Drink Milk

Milk…It does a body good! You should have known this would be on the list. Milk is the drink of all strength champions throughout history. Let's take a look back into the past. Paul Anderson, a man whose strength feats have gone down in history used to drink several gallons of milk per day. I read that he used to drink a gallon of milk just during his workout. If you look at the eating habits of the strongmen and powerlifters of the past, milk was a major part of their diet.

Even the old school bodybuilders used to drink large amounts of milk. It supplies the body with an excellent source of protein. Its main source is casein protein, which is a slower released protein source than whey. It also supplies simple carbohydrates, vitamins and minerals to help round things out. Milk has different caloric rates depending on which type you consume. Powerlifters should drink 2% or whole milk, as it will supply you with valuable calories when looking to gain weight. The best time to consume milk is with your protein shake as it can really help with the taste. When trying to pack on mass, milk should definitely be part of your plan!"

I am really not trying to pack on "mass" necesarily but, ya get my point.

[Stout1]

I eat about 4-6 times a day roughly. I just eat everything I pack for work, piece by piece throughout the day, 10 hrs. when I get home I eat a shake after I lift and before bed which consists of milk and protein. its fat free milk, for what thats worth.

4-6 meals is good

Okay def a bad idea to have milk in a PWO shake. We want water, whey, and a 50/50 combo of dextrose and maltodextrine.

Also right before bed you are having more simple carbs from the sugar in milk. I would drop that and add water and some olive oil or flax oil.

What kind of job do you do or general speaking so we can see what we can get you to eat or what you have access to eat while at work.

[skullsmasher]

I manage a casino in california. I like to pack my food in advance or else I cant get exactly what I should. I can eat whenever I want.

[skullsmasher]

when I drink water with my shakes, I have to put in about 3 scoops of protein to feel as replenished as when I put in 1 scoop and some milk.

[BigWilly]

Im not planning out every single meal. I just buy groceries that (I thought) are somewhat good for what im trying to accomplish, and I eat a target amount each day. I dont say "ok eat this at this time" etc. I just dont do that right now. Im not yer size BW or even close. Im not trying to compete or anything of that nature.

Yeah, but do you want to get bigger? Or be my size?

If not, nevermind...

But if so, you better start paying more attention to what you eat in each meal...and you better start eating MORE...about 7 meals per day..including shakes.....a shake in the middle of the night is great too....
DO NOT use milk post workout....you feel more replenished b/c it fills you up...so what? You want to get some whey protein and sugars in you....quickly and you want that to digest quickly...milk only slows that down...
your protein should be about 300g/day...carbs 600g...fats 50g....that's about 4000 cals a day...do you want to grow? or not...

[skullsmasher]

of course I do. but realistically I do not believe I can get to your size without the use of other supplements AS WELL as proper diet. proper diet/training alone will not get me to your size, however that doesnt mean that I wont try my hardest.

[BigWilly]

well I tell you what....before I used any supplementation, I was up to 215 lbs at about 11% bf..

nonetheless...even more reason why you should pay so much attention to how much your eating....

[BigWilly]

back before I started supplementation, I never planned on getting super ripped and competiting either...

I just wanted to look better and get bigger...and I made damn sure I planned out my meals b/c it's the most important factor.

[Stout1]

I found this somewhere. it helped me make my decision to include milk into my diet.

"Drink Milk

Milk…It does a body good! You should have known this would be on the list. Milk is the drink of all strength champions throughout history. Let's take a look back into the past. Paul Anderson, a man whose strength feats have gone down in history used to drink several gallons of milk per day. I read that he used to drink a gallon of milk just during his workout. If you look at the eating habits of the strongmen and powerlifters of the past, milk was a major part of their diet.

Even the old school bodybuilders used to drink large amounts of milk. It supplies the body with an excellent source of protein. Its main source is casein protein, which is a slower released protein source than whey. It also supplies simple carbohydrates, vitamins and minerals to help round things out. Milk has different caloric rates depending on which type you consume. Powerlifters should drink 2% or whole milk, as it will supply you with valuable calories when looking to gain weight. The best time to consume milk is with your protein shake as it can really help with the taste. When trying to pack on mass, milk should definitely be part of your plan!"

I am really not trying to pack on "mass" necesarily but, ya get my point.

Old school BBer's did a plethora of things wrong or not as we would today. Look at the size difference in today's athletes compared to then. Yes, the "supplement" use compared from then to now is night and day difference, but the nutrional knowledge of what we have today versus what they have is far superior.

Milk is okay every now and then, but I would never count it as a staple in my diet. I have a glass now and then when there is some up in my fridge but I never go out and purchase it as if I did do that I would end up consuming it

If looking for vitamins don't look to milk you should be getting enough in through a good multi-vitman pak such as the one by Beverly International or other suitable food groups. Milk is alaso full of simple sugars. Not good. Simple carbs are good pwo, but milk slows the digestion process down. This is not what we are looking for PWO. We want a fast acting relief through the use of whey protein and malto/dex combo.

He mentions milk to pack on the mass.....If you are really looking to pack on the mass it should be done through complex carbs such as oatmea, sweet potatoes/yams, brown rice. Meats such as eggs, chicken, tuna, salmon, turkey, and veggies. Milk is NOT a good choice for a mass builder at all.

I am not saying NEVER to drink milk, but do not count on it as a staple of your diet.

[Stout1]

I manage a casino in california. I like to pack my food in advance or else I cant get exactly what I should. I can eat whenever I want.

Ok, then we can definitely make some changes to this then

You mentioned losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time. Yes it can be done, but it is hard if you have never done it before. You could end up spinning your wheels more than you would be making progress. Have you ever tried or been succesful in losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time?

[skullsmasher]

yes, when I first started I lost fat and got a little bigger, then i started eating again after I was lean and got bigger and bigger. I have been bigger than i am now. naturally