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    The Cutting Primer

    The Cutting Primer
    By rambo @anabolicreview.com

    It’s about time we had a decent full length post on cutting…
    Let’s get a few things straight…
    1. All of the insights I’m about to provide are not person-specific. What that means is that it is a general guideline, not a bible.
    2. I truly do believe that bodybuilding is 80% diet. You can lift your arse off daily, and still look horrible if you aren’t eating right.
    3. You are what you eat. It’s just that simple.

    The BASICS-1.Postworkout Nutrition- I’m a firm believer that PWO nutrition is hands down the most important aspect of dieting. It is within the 15 minutes after a workout that your body is in dire need of nutrients. It is a completely anabolic state, and what you take in can be optimized to ensure maximum results. A general rule of thumb is 40-60 grams whey protein, and double the amount of whey in carbohydrates (50% dextrose/50% maltodextrin).

    2. Carbs- You are **** right, carbs. In a strict cutting diet the majority of your carbs should come in the form of PWO nutrition, and the remainder in breakfast. Fibrous veggies are a staple, but keep in mind that they don’t count towards intake, as they have negligible impacts on blood sugar levels. (Exceptions: Carrots, Peas) All high glycemic carbs outside of PWO should be avoided. The best sources of low GI carbs can be found in oatmeal and brown rice, as well as yams.

    3. Protein- You need tons. 1.5-2.0 grams per pound of lean bodyweight is a good general rule of thumb. You should take in a good portion of your protein in the source of real meals, avoid intaking too many shakes, as real food comes to a better benefit. The list foods with high protein bioavailability is extensive, and I will only cover a few, (Egg whites, Lean steak, Chicken breast, the list goes on forever….).

    4. Fats- Guess what? You need fat to lose fat. We are talking about the granddaddy of fats, the EFA (Essential Fatty Acid). Good sources of fat are ( Flax Oil, Nuts, Salmon, Olive Oil).

    5. The Separation of Carbs and Fats- This is a hotly debated issue, but again, in my opinion, an important aspect nonetheless. Remember that it is often when you eat items and with what you eat them that is more important than what you are eating. A mouthful, I know, but stay with me. Remember that when you take in certain carbs, you can spike your insulin levels. If you are taking in fats when your insulin has been spiked, you are allowing the basic laws of physiology to act out, and you allow for a higher propensity for fat storage. Separation is key. The sample diet will give a good example of how to separate them.

    6. Supplements-
    Glutamine: Helps prevent catabolism when cutting. Best used in dosages of 10grams daily, 5 grams before cardio, 5 grams at another interval, but not after workout as it fights for absorption with the glutamine peptides in whey.
    ALA/R-ALA- Gets my supplement of the day award. R-ALA is effective in lowering the spike of insulin when certain carbs are consumed. I could give you a dissertation on the stereoentisomeric properties of the R, but all you need to know is that it has been found to shuttle carbohydrates away from adipose and into myocytes. Translation: Away from fat cells, into muscle cells. It’s a supplement, however, not a miracle worker. It’s not a crutch, and won’t do anything about fat intake. ALA and R-ALA can also aid in the expedition of the ketogenic state. Remember that if you buy R-ALA that you supplement it with Biotin. Glucorell-R is prepackaged with it. If you can afford it, go for it. As far as dosage, with the R, you are looking at 1-2 pills of Glucorell R for each 30-40grams of carb intake.
    Protein and Carb Shakes: I’m not going to cover protein, because even if you can’t afford it, you should sell a kidney to get some. Carb drinks are rather convenient, and companies offer pre mixed dosages, (CarboHit, Glycoload, UltraFuel). Dextrose and Maltodextrin can be bought from most supplement stores or online.

    7. Cheating- Cheating is essential. Why? Remember, the body runs on homeostasis, it likes to keep balance. After eating so well after a week, your body begins to adjust, and fat loss over time will not be as rapid. The other extremely important aspect is mental sanity. So many diets crash and fail because people don’t give themselves a chance to breath. Remember, cheating is not an opportunity for you to pillage the entire mall food court. Shoot for a cheat meal, not an all out binge. A fast food value meal can be 2,000 calories. Eat that 3 times on one day, and you’ve consumed 6,000 calories. And that’s not good in any case.

    8. Cardio- Cardio and cutting usually go hand in hand. I won't go into specifics about length, other than cardio shouldn't be excessive. 45 minutes to one hour daily should be sufficient, and should be performed on an empty stomach.
    Sample Diet:

    Note: This is a sample diet for a 200 pound gentleman who is wishing to cut. We can assume his BF to be around 15%. This diet will NOT work for you if those criteria don’t apply to you; however it is easy to customize the below diet to take in account your own statistics. It is the principles that are applicable.. I am not going to post the total amount of calories, only the carb, protein and fat macros for the whole day.

    Meal 1:
    Lean Protein, 1/2 cup oatmeal

    Meal 2:
    Protein shake/Lean Protein (2 tbsp flax

    Meal 3:
    Veggies, Lean Protein

    Workout

    Meal 4:
    PWO Nutrition

    Meal 5:
    Veggies, Lean Protein, 1/2 cup rice or oatmeal.

    Meal 6:
    Shake with Flax

    That turns into approximately 300 grams protein, 130 grams Carbs, and 50 grams of fat.

    *Reminder: This is a PRIMER. It’s not mean to be comprehensive.

    Here comes the fun part: Question and Answer….

    Q: What about dairy?
    A: If you don’t mind a soft look, fat free cottage cheese is an excellent caseinate source, but as for milks- way too much processed sugar. NO.

    Q: Should I do a keto diet?
    A: Unless you are morbidly obese, or would like to drag your wilted muscles behind you, stay away from keto. Again, that’s my opinion. You can see my previous posts for my anti-keto ranting.

    Q: What about cycling carb intake?
    A: Obviously on non workout days you will be without a shake, so you will be auto-cycling. It works well that way.

    Q: Is sodium an issue?
    A: Outside of the bloating issue, or if you have high cholesterol, no.

    Q. How do I make my meals not taste like cardboard?
    A. Be creative. Mix in some sugar free jam or splenda in your oats, some hot sauce or soy sauce on your meats, or pick up some sugar free ketchup.

    Q. I don’t like old fashioned oats. Can I eat the pre mixed oats with fruit?
    A. No. Be a man. Those mixes have ridiculous amounts of sugar.

    Q. What about fruit?
    A: Fruit replenishes glycogen stores in the liver, and in my opinion, is not to be a staple of a strict cutting diet, with a few exceptions.

    Q: Can I eat steak while cutting?
    A: Definitely. Make sure it’s a leaner cut.
  • brain

    #2
    what kinds of cardio work best

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    • Blown_SC

      #3
      Originally posted by brain
      what kinds of cardio work best
      You mean methods? The elliptical, bike, etc... are great methods.

      I prefer to perform mine in the morning on an empty stomach, @ 65-75%HR... for 45-60mins....

      Then, wait 15-20 mins to ingest a pro/fat meal, or, wait 40-45mins to ingest a pro/carb meal....

      Works great for me...

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      • liftsiron
        Administrator
        • Nov 2003
        • 18443

        #4
        Good post.
        ADMIN/OWNER@Peak-Muscle

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        • Grey Wtr

          #5
          Originally posted by Blown_SC
          The Cutting Primer
          By rambo @anabolicreview.com


          Meal 1:
          Lean Protein, 1/2 cup oatmeal

          Meal 2:
          Protein shake/Lean Protein (2 tbsp flax

          Meal 3:
          Veggies, Lean Protein

          Workout

          Meal 4:
          PWO Nutrition

          Meal 5:
          Veggies, Lean Protein, 1/2 cup rice or oatmeal.

          Meal 6:
          Shake with Flax

          That turns into approximately 300 grams protein, 130 grams Carbs, and 50 grams of fat.


          Q. What about fruit?
          A: Fruit replenishes glycogen stores in the liver, and in my opinion, is not to be a staple of a strict cutting diet, with a few exceptions.

          Q: Can I eat steak while cutting?
          A: Definitely. Make sure it’s a leaner cut.
          Very good info.

          3 questions:

          1. the 1/2 cup of Rice, that is the Pre-cooked measure, right?
          2. I often, on training days only, will put 1/2 a banana on top of my Oatmeal, then pour my shake over that. Is the Banana adding to much carbs?
          3. Which Steak cuts tend to be lower in Fat?

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          • Blown_SC

            #6
            1. Yes, pre-cooked (dry)...

            2. The 1/2 banana won't affect you too much, and provides a good source of potassium. Try not including it, and see if your results are better... everyone is different...

            3. Strip-Loin, Sirloin Tip, Tenderloin....

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            • Grey Wtr

              #7
              Thanks Bro,

              BTW, I tend to put Flax oil in my Breakfast Protien shake to slow the absorption, etc.

              Am I on the right track with this?

              Right now I am 1 week out from beginning a "Bulking phase", afterwhich I will move into a "Cutting phase", does the use of Flax seed oil differ for each phase?

              My goal is to put on size w/o adding a significant amount of fat.

              I've been at this Iron game 30 yrs, in the past I tended to put to much fat on while putting on Muscle (Old School style, LOL). I'm trying to be smarter about it this time.

              I appreciate your approach of getting size with minimal fat.

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              • Blown_SC

                #8
                Originally posted by Grey Wtr
                Thanks Bro,

                BTW, I tend to put Flax oil in my Breakfast Protien shake to slow the absorption, etc.

                Am I on the right track with this?

                Right now I am 1 week out from beginning a "Bulking phase", afterwhich I will move into a "Cutting phase", does the use of Flax seed oil differ for each phase?

                My goal is to put on size w/o adding a significant amount of fat.

                I've been at this Iron game 30 yrs, in the past I tended to put to much fat on while putting on Muscle (Old School style, LOL). I'm trying to be smarter about it this time.

                I appreciate your approach of getting size with minimal fat.
                If you're eating oats in your first meal, don't add flax. If you're not eating oats (carbs) then it's fine. Don't mix your fats with your carbs (general rule)...
                Split your meals into either a pro/carb meal, or a pro/fat meal... don't mix carbs and fats... one will be used for energy, and one will be stored as fat, not good...

                While cutting seriously, carbs are great in the morning, and for PWO and PPWO...

                By the way, PWO = post workout, and PPWO = post post workout.

                Morning Carbs - Oats (Low GI)
                PWO Carbs - Dextrose (High GI)
                PPWO Carbs - Brown Rice/Yams/Oats (Low GI)

                All other meals should be a lean source of protein combined with EFAs...

                Regarding 'phases' of bulking and cutting: You need fats in both approaches. They very beneficial for both respects. You may be wondering why you should include fats while cutting? You need to eat fat, to lose fat.
                Last edited by Guest; 03-17-2005, 12:13 AM.

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                • Grey Wtr

                  #9
                  Thanks Chief!

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                  • brain

                    #10
                    I need help!!!!

                    Originally posted by Blown_SC
                    You mean methods? The elliptical, bike, etc... are great methods.

                    I prefer to perform mine in the morning on an empty stomach, @ 65-75%HR... for 45-60mins....

                    Then, wait 15-20 mins to ingest a pro/fat meal, or, wait 40-45mins to ingest a pro/carb meal....

                    Works great for me...
                    I 've started eating right, running and rideing. A friend said something about "Winney". Do you think that it would help me get that cut look back alot quicker. Or is that friend full of sh**? What do you think about getting cut quick.

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                    • rado

                      #11
                      Originally posted by brain
                      I 've started eating right, running and rideing. A friend said something about "Winney". Do you think that it would help me get that cut look back alot quicker. Or is that friend full of sh**? What do you think about getting cut quick.
                      Why don't you post up your stats up on another thread so that everyone can give you there perspective.

                      Never heard of "Winney".....Did you ask him if you can drink it? I'm not sure that you're suppose to though......Welcome to PM !

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                      • rado

                        #12
                        Originally posted by Blown_SC
                        If you're eating oats in your first meal, don't add flax. If you're not eating oats (carbs) then it's fine. Don't mix your fats with your carbs (general rule)...
                        Split your meals into either a pro/carb meal, or a pro/fat meal... don't mix carbs and fats... one will be used for energy, and one will be stored as fat, not good...

                        While cutting seriously, carbs are great in the morning, and for PWO and PPWO...

                        By the way, PWO = post workout, and PPWO = post post workout.

                        Morning Carbs - Oats (Low GI)
                        PWO Carbs - Dextrose (High GI)
                        PPWO Carbs - Brown Rice/Yams/Oats (Low GI)

                        All other meals should be a lean source of protein combined with EFAs...

                        Regarding 'phases' of bulking and cutting: You need fats in both approaches. They very beneficial for both respects. You may be wondering why you should include fats while cutting? You need to eat fat, to lose fat.
                        I like your post bro, thanks for that !

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                        • Grey Wtr

                          #13
                          Originally posted by Blown_SC
                          1. Yes, pre-cooked (dry)...

                          2. The 1/2 banana won't affect you too much, and provides a good source of potassium. Try not including it, and see if your results are better... everyone is different...

                          3. Strip-Loin, Sirloin Tip, Tenderloin....

                          That's great news BTW, as Sirloin is my favorite!

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                          • Blown_SC

                            #14
                            Originally posted by brain
                            I 've started eating right, running and rideing. A friend said something about "Winney". Do you think that it would help me get that cut look back alot quicker. Or is that friend full of sh**? What do you think about getting cut quick.

                            How funny, this is the exact same reason I got on the boards, to research my 'winny-only' cycle.. :booze:

                            Stay away from it.... will only dry you up, and harden your muscle... and you really shouldn't run it by itself.... It's not a fat burner in the respect your friend would have you believe...

                            Diet and cardio is what you need.... maybe a thermogenic (ECA/ECY, etc).... diet is the key, and don't let anyone tell you differently....

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                            • powerlifter
                              VET
                              • May 2004
                              • 170

                              #15
                              Originally posted by Blown_SC
                              How funny, this is the exact same reason I got on the boards, to research my 'winny-only' cycle.. :booze:

                              Stay away from it.... will only dry you up, and harden your muscle... and you really shouldn't run it by itself.... It's not a fat burner in the respect your friend would have you believe...

                              Diet and cardio is what you need.... maybe a thermogenic (ECA/ECY, etc).... diet is the key, and don't let anyone tell you differently....

                              Agreed Bro - Winny is overblown for its ripping effects - diet is the key
                              Anything I say is for educational purposes only, and is not intended to diagnose or treat. Please consult with your medical practitioner, as they will be able to see and more accurately gauge the depth of the problem...my advice shall be meant as suggestions only, as advice and opinions can vary widely amongst professionals.

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