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  • strongman
    Vet
    • Feb 2009
    • 116

    #16
    BTW, this is for basic home brewing, not the recipe for magic solution, LOL.

    I've had several Pm's and e-mails about this topic, so I will post a step by step how to make you own gear thread.

    First thing you will need is the hormone powder. This is actually the steroid in powder form. This is available on the black market both domestically and internationally. I suggest you try and find a source from China.

    Once you have the powder you need some supplies. Everything I list can be found through searching the interenet


    Besides the hormone powder everything is legal to possess. (technically)

    you will need the following:

    digital scale that reads down to .1 gram (usually around 50.00)

    beakers, size will depend on how much your going to make, they come in 50, 100, 250, 500, 1000 etc.

    sealed, sterile vials large enough to hold what your going to make and then smaller ones to break down your gear so you are not drawing out of the same vial a million times. Or open vials, rubber stops and crimp tops along with a crimper.

    syringe cases with out the needle in 30cc, 10cc and of course 3cc

    18 gauge needles and 25 gauge needles. You will also need whatever you are going to shoot with like 22 or 23 gauge 1 or 1 1/2"

    glass stir rod

    whatman or millex filters in .45um. .22um can be used but makes filtering oil very time consuming, they are actually made for filtering water based products.

    Benzyl alcohol- this is used to keep the gear sterile and help fight the spead of any bacteria that got through the filtering process or through repeated vial sticks. Years ago people baked thier gear after brewing it. This is not needed as filtering and BA should be all you need..

    Benzyl benzonate- this is used to help suspend the hormone and makes the brew thinner and eaiser to shoot.

    oil, cottonseed, grapeseed etc., is fine (does not need to be USP or sterile, just free of additives.

    ok, lets make some gear.

    lets make test enathate at 250mg/ml

    for those that do not know a cc is the same as ml

    so every cc drawn into the syringe has 250milligrams of steroid

    ok, to figure out how much of everthing we need, we need to use a powder calculator

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    so we want to make 100ml's at 250mg/ml

    we plug in the number

    100 for oil ml's
    250 for dosage
    leave powder weight at .75 or .85 (can be used for almost all powders)

    ba content we set at .02, which is 2%. theres alot of theories about the percentages of BA and BB, I like 2/20% or 2/15, the more BA the more chance of painful injections. Ba at 1-10% CANNOT kill bacteria, only at unsafe levels can it actually kill bacteria. BA helps slow the spread and/or growth of bacteria.

    bb content at .20 = 20% or .15 = 15%

    we come up with the following:

    59.25 ml's of oil
    25 grams of powder
    2 ml's of BA
    20 ml's of BB

    ok, so we take our beaker and stir rod and clean them with some BA, rubbing alcohol or everclear and let them dry. I like to clean just about everything including the prep surface. It really is not needed because hopfully filtering gets everything, and without a clean room, laminar flow hood and HEPA filtration your getting alls kinds of unseen crap in your mixture. It's just piece of mind for me.

    put on some latex gloves

    get a frying pan and place about an inch or two of water in it and place it on the stove. Set the heat on low, this does not need to come to a boil. It should be hot enough that it is hard to keep your hand in the water.

    take you beaker and place it on your scale and hit zero or tare. This will set your scale back to zero with the beaker on it. Now start putting powder in the beaker until it reads 25 grams. Make sure it is set on grams and not ounces, LOL.

    now draw up the BA and BB into a syringe and spray it on the powder. It will look like there is not enough liquid to put the powder into solution, but there is. Get rid of this syringe when your done, the BA/BB will start to eat the plunger.

    now take the beaker and place it in the middle of the frying pan. Stir the solution every few minutes until it is clear.

    now draw up 3 cc's of oil and place it aside. Take the rest of the oil and place it in the beaker. Once again, stir the solution every few minuntes until it is perfectly clear. We are not using the heat to steralize, just to help get the hormone into solution and make the oil easier to draw up and filter, hotter oil is thinner oil.

    now take a 25 gauge needle and stick it through the top of a 100-150ml vial at an angle. This is just used as a vent.

    now take a 18 gauge needle and place it on a filter, it will go on the side that is smooth. The needle will not come off as this is the low pressure side.

    now stick the needle through the top of the sterile vial

    take a 30cc syringe and attach an 18g needle to it and stir your sloution and draw up 30cc's. You can also use a 60cc syringe and place the syringe into a caulking gun (saves your hand, trust me) Turn the syringe upright and pull back a little bit. Cap the needle and screw it off. Now carfully attach the full syringe to the top of the filter, this will screw in place. This is called a luer lock.

    Now slowly push the plunger down, you want drops not a stream. This will take a while, so be patient. Once you are done, unscrew from the filter, re-attach the needle and draw some more solution and repeat until everything is in the vial.

    now take the 3ccs of oil you put aside and run that through the filter to purge any remaining hormone.

    you now have 100ml's of homemade test enathate. Now take a fresh 18g needle and draw up 20-30cc's at a time and put that into sterile sealed vials, that way your not drawing out of the same vial for months.

    there you go, pretty easy. I like to let the solution sit for 24 hours. I have had a few different items come out of solution on me overnight, one was 300mg cyp. If this happens in your arm or leg it is painful.

    some hormones are more difficult than other to get into solution, so if you have individual quesions please feel free to ask. Winny for one takes lots of heat and can crash while filtering. There is an art to winny, start small, trust me on this also, LOL.

    There is movement over the last 2 years or so to use EO instead of or along with oil.(ethyle oleate), I have done plenty of research with it and you can get lots of stuff in higher MG/CC to hold, but no long term studies have been done on this.

    There is also a chemical called super solvent, it's actually Guaiciol and it works very well putting very high concentrations of hormone into solution but is very harsh. I have personally made Test suspension in oil at 100,150 and even 200mg/ml. It was said it could not be done, it can be done, but it is not very pleasant to shoot. I went back to normal dosage gear in a single oil, usually grape seed.

    this process works very well for most test esters, EQ, deca, tren etc.

    There you have it, for the price of a cycle bought at your gym, you can buy all the equipment needed and enough powder for 5-10 cycles. Good luck

    This is for entertainment purposes only, as this site does not condone the use of ANY illegal drug.

    Hope this helps, enjoy

    Strongman.....

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    • jaymaan
      Registered User
      • May 2008
      • 82

      #17
      There's this guy... basskiller he's got some pretty good info on his site too. I haven't seen anything on mast p yet though, I think I want to try that next.
      What we really need is a book for all compounds.

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      • jaymaan
        Registered User
        • May 2008
        • 82

        #18
        The Kitchen Chemists Cookbook from www.basskilleronline.com

        I'm still waiting for the "complete set of instructions" though
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        Im currently compiling a complete set of instructions for converting injectables (both oil and water based), capping orals and making liquid orals as well. The Instructions will be updated periodically, some with pictures as well. Enjoy!

        Basics:

        --There are a few myths floating around the boards about conversions. First off, nothing is sterile until we filter the product, and it need not be. You do not need to purchase sterile oil, sterile BA, or sterile BB. You do need to purchase sterile vials for the final product, sterile syringes and sterile syringe filters.

        --Oil can be purchased at the grocery store. Look for thin oils such as walnut, peanut (make sure you're not allergic!), grapeseed. Other oils that work well are seasame, cottonseed. I recommend grapeseed for the additional health benefits. Remember nothing is sterile at this point, and thats ok!

        --BA and BB are (as of 1/2/05) best purchased at *********. You can buy yourself a lifetime supply of both for less than $30 USD. While you're there pick up a bomex beaker, at least 120ml.

        --Syringe filters are easy to find, buy them wherever the price is right. Look for 0.45micron filters, with a diameter of at least 20mm. Manufactures such as Whatman, Millex, and PCI scientific make good filters.

        --KEEP SOLUTION WARM while filtering. It'l make your life a lot easier.


        Testosterone Enanthate, Euquipoise, Deca
        These raw hormones are soluable in oil alone. They need no additional solvents, but for antimicrobial puposes BA (benzyl alcohol) is used.

        Items Needed for a 10 gram conversion:
        -10 grams test enanthate, deca, or EQ
        -0.80ml benzyl alcohol (2% BA)
        -31.20ml oil
        -Syringes 3cc & 5cc or 10cc
        -20 gauge needles
        -Mixing vial (or preferably beaker)
        -Sterile vial
        -Sterile syringe filter
        1) Weigh out 10 grams of hormone into mixing vial or beaker.
        2) Add benzyl alcohol and 26.20cc of oil. (This will leave 5cc oil for later.)
        3) Place on stovetop (electric stove) or frying pan (gas stove) on medium high heat.
        4) Swirl and heat until soultion is completely homogeneous and clear. NO hormone "swirls" or visible separation should be left.
        5) Place 20g needle in sterile vial and attach syringe filter.
        6) Place another needle through stopper to releave pressure
        7) Draw out hormone solution with 5 or 10cc syringe and run it through the syringe filter until all solution is filtered.
        8) Run the addition 5cc of saved oil from step 2 through syringe filter to purge.
        This conversion results in 40ml - 250mg/ml sterile solution for injection.


        Testosterone Propionate, Trenbolone Acetate, Boldenone Propionate
        These raw hormones are not soluable in oil alone (at STP). They have higher melting points and sport relatively short esters. They need additional solvents. We will use BA as an antimicrobial and BB as our cosolvent.

        Items Needed for a 10 gram conversion:
        -10 grams testosterone Propionate, Tren Acetate, or Boldenone Propionate
        -2.0ml benzyl alcohol (2% BA)
        -20.0ml benzyl benzoate (20% BB)
        -70.0ml oil
        -Syringes 3cc & 5cc or 10cc
        -20 gauge needles
        -Mixing vial (or preferably beaker)
        -Sterile vial
        -Sterile syringe filter
        1) Weigh out 10 grams of hormone into mixing vial or beaker.
        2) Add benzyl alcohol and 65.0cc of oil. (This will leave 5cc oil for later.)
        3) Place on stovetop (electric stove) or frying pan (gas stove) on medium high heat.
        4) Swirl and heat until soultion is completely homogeneous and clear. NO hormone "swirls" , crystals, or visible separation should be left.
        5) Place 20g needle in sterile vial and attach syringe filter.
        6) Place another needle through stopper to releave pressure
        7) Draw out hormone solution with 5 or 10cc syringe and run it through the syringe filter until all solution is filtered.
        8) Run the addition 5cc of saved oil from step 2 through syringe filter to purge.
        This conversion results in 100ml - 100mg/ml sterile solution for injection.

        Trenbolone Enanthate, testosterone Cypionate
        These raw hormones are not soluable in oil alone (at STP). Though they have relatively long esters, they will need additional solvents. We will use BA as an antimicrobial and BB as our cosolvent.

        Items Needed for a 10 gram conversion:
        -10 grams testosterone Cypionate or Tren Enanthate
        -0.80ml benzyl alcohol (2% BA)
        -8.00ml benzyl benzoate (20% BB)
        -23.20ml oil
        -Syringes 3cc & 5cc or 10cc
        -20 gauge needles
        -Mixing vial (or preferably beaker)
        -Sterile vial
        -Sterile syringe filter
        1) Weigh out 10 grams of hormone into mixing vial or beaker.
        2) Add benzyl alcohol and 18.2cc of oil. (This will leave 5cc oil for later.)
        3) Place on stovetop (electric stove) or frying pan (gas stove) on medium high heat.
        4) Swirl and heat until soultion is completely homogeneous and clear. NO hormone "swirls" , crystals, or visible separation should be left.
        5) Place 20g needle in sterile vial and attach syringe filter.
        6) Place another needle through stopper to releave pressure
        7) Draw out hormone solution with 5 or 10cc syringe and run it through the syringe filter until all solution is filtered.
        8) Run the addition 5cc of saved oil from step 2 through syringe filter to purge.
        This conversion results in 40ml - 250mg/ml sterile solution for injection

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        • HUGEmiller

          #19
          Originally posted by basskiller
          This is deep shit! haha, nice man!

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