What are you guys opinions? I have run it in the past, and I have not run it.
I have used it with test 600mg/eq400mg/dbol30mg at 250iu e3d. Then igf during pct with clomid and nolva. I noticed my balls didn't really do anything to be honest. They stayed the same. I also seemed to recover pretty quickly. Strength seemed to stay where it was, and I didn't really lose any of my muscle which I think I can attribute to the igf.
I have also run test /deca @500mg/400mg without any hcg, no igf, and a simple pct of clomid and nolva. I noticed my balls did shrink some, and at the end of the cycle I only lost a little bit of strength, (negligible), and really not much size.
My question is who thinks it's necessary and who thinks it's unnecessary, and does a low dose go much farther than we would think. My buddy on trt is on a low dose of test cyp(200mg wk) and they prescribed him hcg at 35iu twice a week. If you were to double that, if you bumped the test dose up, it would only be 70 iu twice a week a difference of roughly 610iu than what I have used in the past.
What are you guys thoughts?
I have used it with test 600mg/eq400mg/dbol30mg at 250iu e3d. Then igf during pct with clomid and nolva. I noticed my balls didn't really do anything to be honest. They stayed the same. I also seemed to recover pretty quickly. Strength seemed to stay where it was, and I didn't really lose any of my muscle which I think I can attribute to the igf.
I have also run test /deca @500mg/400mg without any hcg, no igf, and a simple pct of clomid and nolva. I noticed my balls did shrink some, and at the end of the cycle I only lost a little bit of strength, (negligible), and really not much size.
My question is who thinks it's necessary and who thinks it's unnecessary, and does a low dose go much farther than we would think. My buddy on trt is on a low dose of test cyp(200mg wk) and they prescribed him hcg at 35iu twice a week. If you were to double that, if you bumped the test dose up, it would only be 70 iu twice a week a difference of roughly 610iu than what I have used in the past.
What are you guys thoughts?
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