Breaking News: Brock Lesnar pulls out of UFC 106 Title defense

liftsiron

liftsiron

Owner/Admin
Joined
Nov 12, 2003
Messages
19,026
posted by ch40s on WCBB


Breaking News: Brock Lesnar pulls out of UFC 106 Title defense
Brock Lesnar pulls out of UFC 106 title defense with Shane Carwin due to illness
by Dann Stupp on Oct 26, 2009 at 4:05 pm ET
An illness has forced UFC heavyweight champion Brock Lesnar (4-1 MMA, 3-1 UFC) out of the UFC 106 main event and a planned title fight with Shane Carwin (11-0 MMA, 3-0 UFC).

The news was first reported by Yahoo! Sports, and a source within Carwin's camp confirmed with MMAjunkie.com (UFC blog for UFC news, UFC rumors, fighter interviews and event previews/recaps | MMAjunkie.com) they were aware of the change.

According to the report, which stated Lesnar has been sick and unable to train for nearly a month, the UFC has not determined a replacement fight to headline the show, which takes place Nov. 21 at the Mandalay Bay Events Center in Las Vegas.

UFC 106 is one of the deeper cards of the year with former UFC light heavyweight champions Tito Ortiz and Forrest Griffin slotted in the night's co-main event. The bout could take the top spot if a suitable replacement fight can't be booked.

The scrapped main event was supposed to serve as Lesnar's first title defense since unifying the UFC's heavyweight belts with a UFC 100 win over then-interim champ Frank Mir. Lesnar won the title with a November 2008 victory over then-champ Randy Couture.

Carwin, meanwhile, looked to claim his 12th straight win at UFC 106. The 34-year-old has yet to fight longer than two minutes and 11 seconds in any bout. He had posted swift UFC victories over Christian Wellisch, Neil Wain and Gabriel Gonzaga to earn the title shot.

While his resume surely warrants title consideration, Carwin helped his case in landing the title shot by publicly criticizing Lesnar's controversial post-fight comments following UFC 100. Following a rant in which Lesnar scoffed at fans and UFC sponsors alike, Carwin hit social networking sites and conducted many interviews in which he condemned the actions of the former WWE superstar.

Soon after news of the cancellation came out, Carwin posted a simple message on his Twitter account: "Very disappointing."

And though his camp is aware of the change, Carwin hinted in a later posting that he heard the same way most fans did.

"It's [disappointing] hearing about your career and life through the media," he wrote. "Nothing from the [bosses] yet."
 
UFC president Dana White confirmed the news to Yahoo! Sports. White said Lesnar has been ill for more than three-and-a-half weeks and unable to train. With the bout at UFC 106 less than a month away, Lesnar was forced to postpone the title defense.

?He said he?s never been this sick in his life,? White said. ?He said it?s been going on for a long time and he just hasn?t been able to shake it.?

White said he does not know if Lesnar had the H1N1 virus, commonly known as swine flu.

The fight matches two of the biggest and most powerful heavyweights in the UFC. Lesnar (4-1), a former World Wrestling Entertainment star, was a junior college and NCAA Division I wrestling champion. Carwin is a former Division II national wrestling champion.

Both men weigh around 295 pounds and cut weight to make the heavyweight division?s 265-pound limit.

Carwin (11-0), who made several appearances in Los Angeles on Saturday to promote the fight, was clearly disappointed at getting the news.

?My heart just sank, as you can imagine,? Carwin told Yahoo! Sports upon hearing the news about the fight postponement.

The UFC announced Monday afternoon it will move the previously scheduled Tito Ortiz vs. Forrest Griffin fight, a rematch of an epic 2006 contest won by Ortiz on a controversial split decision, into the Nov. 21 main event slot

Editor?s note: This is an updated version of an article that appeared on Yahoo! Sports on Oct. 26.
 
I wonder how that event was selling? Brock was spotted having a good time at a Vicks game recently so the illness is in question.
 
lesnar would wreck lashley in the first if they fought right now, he still looks like shit on his feet.
 
Thate said:
lesnar would wreck lashley in the first if they fought right now, he still looks like shit on his feet.
Click to expand...

Hey lashley took out bob sapp lol. I just wanna see two big ass dudes drop bombs on eachothe lol
 
being in this area of the country (2 hours or so from Brock) it's understandable - what is going around up here right now takes forever to kick once you have it
 
I heard he had Diverticulitis and it almost ended his career. He is supposedly training again.
 
i hope somebody kicks his ass lol. i like lesnar-he seems like a good guy and all but i wanna see someone just anihilate him. i hate the way he fights-wrestlers in MMA just make for a shitty fight most of the time. they work on controlling their oppenent most of the time instead of using to jiu jitsu and "flowing" with their opponent. to me when lesnar is on the ground id almost rather watch ballet.
 
i hope somebody kicks his ass lol. i like lesnar-he seems like a good guy and all but i wanna see someone just anihilate him. i hate the way he fights-wrestlers in MMA just make for a shitty fight most of the time. they work on controlling their oppenent most of the time instead of using jiu jitsu and "flowing" with their opponent. to me when lesnar is on the ground id almost rather watch ballet.
 
I like controlling my opponent :) it frustrates them, then they make a mistake. Next thing they know is they are taping out or knocked out.
 
controlling your opponent is a good thing but he doesnt do it for submissions. i mean i can control all of my opponents and most of the time i already know what their next move is gonna be but i never hold them down. if they wanna move i let them move and i go for the next closest submission. there are submissions from EVERY position whether its a dominant position or not. an old BJJ black belt once said that fighting with an expert at jiu jitsu is like fighting with an empty jacket--he was sayin that if the other guy pushes u dont push back, u pull him. if he pulls back, u push him(follow him/whatever the case is) but u dont oppose his move u just move with it. once i learned to stop holdin people down and keep them in one spot i not only opened my eyes to a whole new window of grappling but i started kickin ass--like it was easy! brock lesnar is just a "ground & pounder"...those knees to the ribs hurt and those 4XL hands hittin u in the mouth look brutal but over all he looks boring. if frank mir were his size or chuck liddell or anderson silva, theyd beat the hell out of him hands down!...im not talkin smack tho this is just my opinion but hes more like a big ass bouncer than an MMA fighter and his size definitely out weighs his skill!!
 
Well he is new to the sport. as you said it took you a while to learn to stop holding people down. I like Lesnar and the way he fights.
 
yeah maybe he will learn and will become more exciting to me...idk. i know i learned from people kickin my ass lol and i mean whos really gonna be a big challenge to him? what he should really do is get into body building lol that dude is a MONSTER
 
I can see Lesnar either getting submitted again or knocked out standing.
 
knocked out standing would be freakin amazing!! submitted would just prove to the world that he is still not skilled in jiu jitsu lol but knocked out would be something to see!
 
Myself and workingout along with many others on this board have the same general background as you Rocky and in general I agree.

Let me start by saying I really cannot stand Brock. With that said, when you fight MMA you have to play to your advantages and take your oppenants away. Brock is a wrestler and high level athlete. He is not a jiu-jitsu black belt, brown belt, purple...you get the idea. I'm sure he is learing BJJ but like any good trainer, they will teach him the escapes/counters and not main techniques first. You already know why, because even an average BJJ guy under any decent trainer would tap brock in two seconds if he tried a submission.

Carwin is a very good match for Brock, actually he is very bad match up because he is just the guy stylistically (either spelled wrong or just not a real word, LOL) that would beat Brock.

Where Mir went wrong was underestimating Brocks wrestling and his ability to control on the ground. Mir will not make the same mistake if he gets another chance. Brock was very obvious he wants none of Mir standing up. I am a judo/jiu-jitsu guy at heart (and I suck, LOL) but I understand the principle of doing whatever it takes to win.

One of my twins (Kyle, 14) is completing in the NAGA nationals (gi and no-gi) in 2 weeks, he is a orange belt under Royce has a black belt in karate and wrestles (high school and submission). He is just now starting to do the adult MMA class at night after submission wrestling. He is seeing the difference quickly of "pure" BJJ moves that get your face pounded in MMA. He is finding that some wrestling style control postitions work better when strikes are allowed. There is a lot of carry over, but in the end do whatever it takes to win.
 
oh there is no doubt he is an athlete! however MMA, whether standing or on the ground, is a chess match. u can teach guys all the escapes u want to and in some cases the guy may escape...on that note-u learn defense by playing offense. i kno, i kno, u are prolly thinking "what!? No u dont!" well actually u do. when u go for any submission and the defender makes a move, whether on purpose or not, that makes u uncomfortable in the offensive position you make a mental note of this...and ask yourself "why did i not feel comfortable when he did this or that?" this teaches u what to do when u are in that position as a defender next time....see what i mean now? he makes no signs of progressing in his skills in jiu jitsu as an offender...just a good wrestler. thats why Mir beat him the 1st time. u cant tell me he didnt know how to escape that heel hook or ankle lock or whatever the hell it was frank tapped him with (that was a long time ago and my memory is about as useful as a male nipple) but he never saw it coming because he has prolly never attempted this submission. wrestling is a good base defense and knowledge to have but wrestling is like karate--in MMA it can get u killed if thats all u have to rely on. hes got heavy hands too but hell he walks around at 300lbs and his hands are huge! i would hope they would be solid! bottom line-hes no special MMA fighter...kinda more like a freak show if u ask me. he does have the titles though and as u said- "whatever it takes to win". thats all that matters howevr i truly believe his heavyweight reign will be destroyed soon by a skilled fighter close to his physical strength and size but far out of his league in Skill.
 
How to get a win:


In a BJJ Nogi tournament:
Get the take down, control top until opponent gives up his back, RNC

In an MMA fight:
Get the take down, control top until opponent gives up his back, rain down furious blows until the ref stops the match.

In the Streets:
You and 3 of your bros sucker punch the bitch ass punk.
 
lol thats funny! ...too bad in a street fight nobody actually wins. wish guys had the self control to keep it all in the cage
 
Rocky07 said:
i truly believe his heavyweight reign will be destroyed soon by a skilled fighter close to his physical strength and size but far out of his league in Skill.
Click to expand...

I totally agree and cannot wait to watch. Mir got him with a knee bar, but you know the set up is same for all those from that postition, so like you said he should of know the set up when Mir placed his foot behind Brocks to pivot.
 
strongman said:
I totally agree and cannot wait to watch. Mir got him with a knee bar, but you know the set up is same for all those from that postition, so like you said he should of know the set up when Mir placed his foot behind Brocks to pivot.
Click to expand...

Exactly! and if was any good at jiu jitsu he would have but hes not lol...i just want everyone to know i dont wish bad things on the guy personally but hes not half the MMA fighter that his Title displays. i think wins should be earned when guys practice hard and learn their stuff, not when guys are just bigger than everyone else lol
 
how long ago was that Mir knee bar? If Lesnar is not any better at BJJ today then fine, he does not deserve his title. However, I have a feeling that he has been training. The only question is will he use his training when the bell rings.

Even after a quite a few fights, my memory of what happened between myself and an opponent in the ring, is different than what the video shows. And that's really hard to explain to your trainer...
 
oh im sure he is training! i def dont think he takes the sport as a joke or is in any way lazy...i mean like i said i dont wish bad things on the guy i just think that since he obviously has a size advantage he's not gonna get my vote until i think he is as equally "talented" as some of the other guys. u know, some guys just have a natural ability to utilize bjj...i do. some people have a natural ability to utilize mouy thai and boxing--i think he is "fair" on his stand-up game and not too great on his bjj but his 265lbs provides more "margin for error". im not raggin him cause hes a big guy & obviously advantaged tho--id just like to see him tap somebody. kimora, triangle,rnc, key lock, heel hook, ....i dont care! but id like to see proof that he is equally as talented as the other guys. once i do he will have my respect....lol til then he's just a plain ole giant.
 
Brock comes in fight night at around 290-300lbs.
He is a beast and a natural athlete. He is VERY new to MMA and he already has the HW belt. His size and speed is ridiculous.
His illness might be a minor setback losing 40-50lbs but I believe he has gained most of that back with help in every way.

It will be hard for ANYONE to bet him.
If he can come in at 100% I don't see anyone beating him.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

New Posts

Trending

Back
Top