Cortisol blockers...

The heavy androgens drive cortisol up not down. Cortisol is something you probably don't want to mess with. If it goes too low you are in a shit storm. Reduce stress as much as possible, clean up diet and, if you are looking to kill off bloat, cut carbs. For me carbs are the biggest killer to my look. They have to be titrated to get the look and then monitored to hold the look.
 
Glycomann said:
The heavy androgens drive cortisol up not down. Cortisol is something you probably don't want to mess with. If it goes too low you are in a shit storm. Reduce stress as much as possible, clean up diet and, if you are looking to kill off bloat, cut carbs. For me carbs are the biggest killer to my look. They have to be titrated to get the look and then monitored to hold the look.
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Her bloodwork had cortisol off the chart high. She took a Drenal, which ingredients I do not understand other than it does have adrenal tissue in it that allows the adrenal glands to adjust their hormone function. The shit worked and drive off the bloat and put the cortisol levels on the next hormone panel in the low normal range with all other drug and diet variables unchanged.
 
Glycomann said:
The heavy androgens drive cortisol up not down. Cortisol is something you probably don't want to mess with. If it goes too low you are in a shit storm. Reduce stress as much as possible, clean up diet and, if you are looking to kill off bloat, cut carbs. For me carbs are the biggest killer to my look. They have to be titrated to get the look and then monitored to hold the look.
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Good advice. Although test and especially tren have a strong affinty for the cortisol receptor, the reason why most guys make better gains on higher dose cycles, after the AR's are saturated aas start attaching to GR's (cortisol) receptors, somewhat reducing the effects of cortisol. That is the anti catabolic effect often mentioned in regard to steroids.
 
i thought you were talking about cytadren and other corticotropic inhibitors. That stuff is nasty and only used for short periods in diseases like Cushings. Munzer used it and it might have helped him melt. Stuff messes up hematology big time. the stuff you are talking about is more like Armour thyroid for the adrenals. I'm sure Dr. Sponge Bob is watching What-ser-name closely. ACTH can fight back so she might do great on the med or could get complicated. I don't know much about this a-Drenal supplement. seems to be working for her.
 
liftsiron said:
Good advice. Although test and especially tren have a strong affinty for the cortisol receptor, the reason why most guys make better gains on higher dose cycles, after the AR's are saturated aas start attaching to GR's (cortisol) receptors, somewhat reducing the effects of cortisol. That is the anti catabolic effect often mentioned in regard to steroids.
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in the end I think it's part of the reason the gains stall. i would speculate it's a good idea to switch to something else when coming off tren at least for a month or so. what I've been hearing from strongman types is that get bloods done is tren does it the worst. So they cycle high androgens with high anabolics.

I think if I was to use tren again I would only use it for a short burst like if I was a strongman or power lifter of BBer and try to time it for max effect. the stuff is so strong. It's like a nuclear bomb versus a machine gun compared to soem of the weaker ones.
 
I always thought it was bad to end a cycle while still using tren or winny which also has a pretty strong affinity for the GR. It opens one up to greater cortisol rebound and potential greater loss of some gains one got during the cycle.
 
If I remember right back in my ignorant dumb days of Prohormones I believe 11OXO was a cortisol blocker, anyhow I ate the shit out of those things and nothing happened .who knows.....
 
liftsiron said:
I always thought it was bad to end a cycle while still using tren or winny which also has a pretty strong affinity for the GR. It opens one up to greater cortisol rebound and potential greater loss of some gains one got during the cycle.
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That's why you should never end the cycle; just switch to something else!:angel2:
 
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